The Case for Jake

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  1. TBpup

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    "Coach Terry Stotts vacillated Layman's playing time with the availability of forward Maurice Harkless, a more dynamic playmaker and defender when not injured."

    Better defender, certainly he can be when he is engaged. But who is this dynamic playmaker Delgado is speaking of?
     
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    He trippin
     
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    Stilk feel this way?
     
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    I use to think Collins was our bright future and Layman was just embarrassing. I'm now starting to change my tune and wish to reiterate this is why I'm not a coach nor a GM.
     
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    Collins is like 4 yrs younger than Layman. Apples to oranges
     
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    It's closer to 3 years difference and one year more experience in the NBA than Collins. Anyhow that wasn't my point. My point was simply right now, I have more hopes for Jake than Collins.
    No one can take issue with this since it's my feeling and not yours nor anyone else. I do have a right to own my feelings. Had I asserted it to be a fact then you would have a case.
     
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    Yes
     
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    I think with Layman he finally got the mental side of the game down and you can see that the confidence he showing. Plus I think the game has slowed down for him.
     
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    I'll gladly take a couple of guys producing like that at such an efficient level. Think how difficult we would be to defend if more players on the roster were doing so.
     
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    I think Collins will be alright his stats has shown improved over last year. He needed to get stronger still and needs not to think to much out there and will come with experience. But if he wants to be a starter he needs gets foul trouble under control.
     
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    I know one thing, his shooting has improved dramatically.
     
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    One thing that build your confidence is have the ball go through the hoop.
     
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    Layman is a current day NBA assassin as his #1 weapon is the 3, and he is instructed to go out and shoot it, its TODAYS GAME. Is #2 weapon is his ability to move and get lose for going to the hoop.

    Collins is a different player all together, he's a defensive rim protector with a limited offensive game right now, it will improve big time in a year or two.
    His presence defensively has impacted some nice wins against some good teams, so there's more to come. Plus, you have to love the fire he has and the relentless ability to protect the rim.
     
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    I wish CJ would get as upset when he is bricklaying as Collins does when he fouls out.
     
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    I think what makes Layman so intriguing is that the majority of the leagues top off ball guys play below the rim. Klay, Steph, Redick, Korver, etc. If Layman can keep making teams respect his outside shot, he’s going to remain a nightmare cover, because he’s just as much, if not more, of a threat going towards the basket.

    Maybe I’m just too optimistic, but it’s probably because we’ve been desperate for a guy like this for years. If teams try and adjust to him, it’ll just become a “pick your poison” scenario, and will make life easier for Dame, CJ, and Nurk.
     
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    Really? I kind of prefer shooters who stay calm and are more emotionally stable. The quicker they forget the better.

    Zach, on the other hand, was partially pissed at some of the calls by the refs who fouled him out. I don't mind him getting pissed over that.
     
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    Jake looks like he's decided to quit trying to fit in with Dame and CJ and is now looking out for Jake.

    Getting good production consistently is where Jake has struggled....along with the playing time to prove it.
     
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    @Pinwheel1 ...agreed a shooter should be a more even keel. Perhaps instead of getting upset, CJ should be more aware and realize that on some nights, almost everyone on his team is shooting better than he is and to get those players more shots. On nights he has it rolling, shoot until your arm falls off. It is that lack of any vision outside his own persona that is bothersome.
     
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    age yes...big disparity

    however, Layman has played 106 games and 976 minutes. Zach has played 113 games and 1,929 minutes
     
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    Mo reminds me of LaMarcus off the court. Very too himself, chill and quiet.
    Jake has a bit of fire. You’ll see him talking smack to the rookies and joking around.
     

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