The Center position and Rob/Ayton/Clingan

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Natebishop3, Jul 2, 2024.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I was listening to the most recent Front Office podcast with Keith Smith. They said the market for centers right now is brutal. Lots of teams are looking for big men.

    Hartenstein got $29 million per year.

    Claxton got $25 million per year.

    Goga Bitadze got $8.3 million per year.

    Even Drew Eubanks got $5 million per year.

    So it really makes me wonder what kind of market RWIII will have if he can prove that he's healthy. It also makes me see the value in taking Clingan. There seems to be some kind of renaissance for centers this summer.
     
    HoopsFanAZ, BIG Q and AmirIcon like this.
  2. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2023
    Messages:
    1,776
    Likes Received:
    2,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is no quantity of proof I could be provided with that would make me think RWIII will play meaningful minutes for my team. Maybe we will find a sucker but I think we’re holding the bag on this one.
     
  3. AquaXI

    AquaXI Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    379
    Likes Received:
    496
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Package Williams with Grant for value return!
     
    BIG Q likes this.
  4. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2008
    Messages:
    30,643
    Likes Received:
    23,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Unfortunately I feel the same. They should have offloaded him for a first when we got him. They can maybe get some seconds now, and that's what they'll likely settle with at some point.
     
    Everything Beagle and BIG Q like this.
  5. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2022
    Messages:
    1,945
    Likes Received:
    2,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not sure that I buy the assessment.

    But regardless, I think we ought to sell Reath to the highest bidder & hang onto the other 3
     
    SharpesTriumph likes this.
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    He's a pretty minimal risk though. Only two years left and he's making $12 million per year. If we could get a heavily protected first, I'd be happy.
     
    Everything Beagle likes this.
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,682
    Likes Received:
    41,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Knicks still need another center, yeah?

    Screenshot_20240702_205909_Chrome.jpg
     
    illmatic99 and SlyPokerDog like this.
  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I'm going to have to check it, but I'm pretty sure you're including two assets that were part of the Bridges trade.
     
    Cugel likes this.
  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
  10. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    32,682
    Likes Received:
    41,169
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whoops...fanspo should update!
     
    RR7 likes this.
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I don't think that trade has completed yet. Just like ours.
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I'm not entirely sure what New Orleans is trying to get out of Ingram, but I know the Pelicans need a center now and I'm wondering if we could get in on a trade between Sac and NOP. I'd love to get that Lakers pick from them.

    upload_2024-7-2_21-15-50.png
     
  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    That Laker writer Irwin said that he was asking about Timelord and this is what he heard:

    "I was asking around a little bit today to see how Portland views Timelord, and from Portland's perspective the consensus that I got was that there's no point in trading low... selling low on Rob Williams. He's been hurt a bunch, he didn't play at all last year. There's no point in selling low on him right now, when you're going to be bad anyway. You want to see him get out on the floor. You want to have him prove to people that he can still play. And if he gets hurt again, you're right back where you are right now. If the Lakers are willing to offer legit value for him, maybe, but right now I don't think he's the throw-in that he's seen as right now."
     
    BBert, maxiep, SharpesTriumph and 5 others like this.
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    I will say that I don’t agree with not selling low on Timelord. If he gets hurt again hes sunk. He won’t be worth anything. The risk is too high that he will get hurt again and we will be shit out of luck. We should have moved him immediately last summer and if there’s a team that wants him and is willing to give us any value, we should move him.
     
  15. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    21,588
    Likes Received:
    33,576
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree, and I'm not sure I'm buying what the LA guy is saying is Portland's position. If Ayton and Clingan are both healthy, which one does Portland bench to get Timelord some burn?
     
    blazerkor and Natebishop3 like this.
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    91,250
    Likes Received:
    53,568
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Well, playing devils advocate, I don’t think he even needs to log many minutes. He just needs to prove he’s healthy and that he can STAY healthy.
     
    maxiep likes this.
  17. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,444
    Likes Received:
    29,013
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    The new market for bigger centers is spelled “Wembanyama”. That BS about smaller centers played just fine as long as there wasn’t a truly talented big center to defend. That’s changed.
     
    BBert and BIG Q like this.
  18. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,681
    Likes Received:
    2,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    The only way he can do that is to play. And so trading him without playing him doesn't let him prove it. And without proving it, I can't imagine another team giving any value for him.

    I agree with the Blazers' reported approach here: hold onto him. Play him. Trade him when you can get him value, otherwise just re-sign him cheaply or let him walk if you can't.
     
    BBert, maxiep, STOMP and 5 others like this.
  19. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    61,191
    Likes Received:
    21,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    They’ll never all be healthy. Have you learned nothing from being a Blazers fan? One of them will have a season ending injury before Thanksgiving.
     
  20. Everything Beagle

    Everything Beagle Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2023
    Messages:
    1,776
    Likes Received:
    2,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I like that this ensures the pick we get is Milwaukee's... I want to haunt their dreams
     

Share This Page