I'd personally love Bane in the next one, but that's skipping wayyyy ahead in the timeline. If they plan on bringing Joker back, I honestly think Tom Waits could pull it off for a few scenes...
Heath Ledger made this movie what it was, his performance was breathtaking.........10/10 Mr. Ledger......10/10
I don't think you can bring back the Joker in the Nolan/Bale franchise, you just can't disrespect Heath and his performance like that. Heath's joker blew Jack's out of the water. The only other actor I think could pull off such a cynical Joker is Depp, but out of respect for Heath, I don't think he'd take the role. I think to end the Nolan era of Batman, we could have Commissioner Gordon tell Batman that Joker has escaped Arkum and leave it on a cliff hanger. Seems like a very fitting end to the Nolan-era Batman films. BTW, besides the interrogation scene...the body bag scene was fuckin' incredible. So creepy seeing Heath laying there.
Except that the Joker is the most important villain in the Batman franchise, and the character's sole purpose is causing mayhem in Gotham. He would never just get up and peace out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Except that the Joker is the most important villain in the Batman franchise, and the character's sole purpose is causing mayhem in Gotham. He would never just get up and peace out.</div> Are you referring to my ending to the series? Who mentioned anything about "peacing out"? I said he has escaped from Arkum, not completely run away to never terrorize Gotham again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well you're saying that this is what they should do so that no one reprises the role...</div> Nobody should reprise the role in the Nolan/Bale era of Batman. Once Nolan is done making Batman films; whoever wants to continue with the franchise or start it over again, can re-cast the Joker.
And I'm saying you can't do that. The Joker is as important to the franchise as the caped crusader. Plus this isn't like the Two-Face end of the movie <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>where you could leave the option open for him not coming back because he's dead. The Joker is still alive in Gotham.</span>
So you don't think Nolan is capable of pulling off a successful Batman film without the Joker? Nolan and company left plenty of options open for the third movie. They left open Two Face who is most likely not dead. If you picked up on the coin flip, before we see Dent on the ground, the coin landed on heads. They left open the possibility of Mr. Reese being the Riddler (mysteries, mysterious--the name tie in), and then Lucious Fox also mentioned that the new suit would protect him from cats---an obvious Catwoman reference. The Joker may be the main antagonist in Batman, but is it very possible for Nolan to pull off a film without reprising the Joker for a film. Joker does not need to be in every Batman film made. The plans were for a trilogy of Nolan-directed films. He's already used the Joker, it doesn't need to be brought back.
I don't think he could, either. He has stated that he put everything that he had, into this movie, in terms of what he wanted out of a Batman movie. If he walked away from the franchise now, it would be complete in my eyes. He isn't signed on for three movies, Bale is. I would not be surprised at all if Nolan left his Batman legacy with this film.
A few thoughts since. 1) It sounds, HK, like you need to show the director of this play the box office tally and remind him that money, BS walks. 2) As cerebral as TDK was, if there was a similar script, The Riddler could carry a story as primary villian. Schumacher was good @ visuals but as far as plot, etc... he was total crap. Some of the best animated Batman shows involve the Riddler. 3) Joker is to Batman as Lex Luthor is to Superman.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 4 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fewf, I was afraid I was going to post in the non-official thread. Thanks for saving me, Mamba.</div> You mean there's a Dark Knight thread in the Nets forum?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 21 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 4 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fewf, I was afraid I was going to post in the non-official thread. Thanks for saving me, Mamba.</div> You mean there's a Dark Knight thread in the Nets forum? </div> But, is there a spygate thread in the Nets forum?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thoth @ Jul 21 2008, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 21 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 4 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fewf, I was afraid I was going to post in the non-official thread. Thanks for saving me, Mamba.</div> You mean there's a Dark Knight thread in the Nets forum? </div> But, is there a spygate thread in the Nets forum? </div> Probably.
I remember Bane. From the TV show. For some reason, he always seemed like someone who was wearing an S&M costume. Always freaked me out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thoth @ Jul 21 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 21 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 4 2008, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fewf, I was afraid I was going to post in the non-official thread. Thanks for saving me, Mamba.</div> You mean there's a Dark Knight thread in the Nets forum? </div> But, is there a spygate thread in the Nets forum? </div> I honestly think there was one on BBF.
