"The Debate"

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  1. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    I read your links far more often than I check out Daily Kos :) Next time I'll seek out Janeane Garofalo's articles on Huffington Post if that's better.
     
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  2. PapaG

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    LOL

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  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Michael Barone has a nice article on RealClearPolitics.com about how the electoral math works. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...in_opens_cracks_in_obama_firewall_115694.html

    Basically, Obama can win if he loses Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. The debate performance by Romney has brought those three states into serious play for Romney.

    Florida's last two polls have Romney up 2 and up 3.
    Romney's up 3, up 1, and Obama up 3 in the last 3 Virginia polls.
    Obama was up 8 in recent Ohio polls, but the last two polls have Romney up 1 and Obama up 1.

    So using Barone's math, working backward from the states Obama won last time and subtracting the ones he's going to lose this time (Indiana, etc.), and if Obama loses Florida, Ohio, and Virginia, Obama would have 272 electoral votes. Still enough to win.

    The RCP poll average for Colorado is Obama +0.2.
     
  4. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

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    Has Obama lied?
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Sasha Obama Asks Father Why He Was Acting Like Such A Pussy During Debate

    DENVER—Following last night’s nationally televised presidential debate, President Barack Obama’s 11-year-old daughter Sasha reportedly asked her father why he was “acting like such a goddamned pussy up there.” “Daddy, how come you were being such a little bitch?” asked the sixth-grader, who told the president she was “genuinely worried” that maybe somebody had “cut Daddy’s balls off” right before he took the stage. “What happened, Dad? Were you on your period or something? Maybe the next time you’re in front of the entire country for an hour and a half you should try not letting another man spank you on the ass like that.” Sources added that Obama’s youngest daughter then offered to help the president go “look for [his] dick, because apparently it’s gone missing.”

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  6. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    crandc . . . what say you? :)
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  8. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Not when characterizing what Mitt would do on his proposal of 2 Tril in NEW Military spending:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...says-romney-would-spend-2-trilllion-military/

    Our ruling

    The president said Romney planned to increase defense spending by $2 trillion and that was money the military hadn’t asked for.
    Independent analysts confirm that number, and Romney did not deny it.
    Military leaders have testified in support of the president’s spending plan, and we found no evidence of disagreement behind the scenes.

    We rate the statement True.

    How are we going to pay for this spending that isn't needed in the 1st place?
     
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  9. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I'm interested in this one, for obvious reasons. The military has already signed up to half a billion in cuts, which don't include the OCO drawdowns. Where's the $2T number coming from, and what is it for?
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think he was lied to about the $2T figure.

    BTW, is Gitmo still open?

    [video=youtube;UQXZoM__vU0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQXZoM__vU0[/video]
     
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    "Read my lips . . . no new taxes"


    Every presidental canidate make promises they don't keep.
     
  12. dviss1

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    "some people are saying (Fox "News" tactic) Obama was lied to about the 2 Trillion figure"

    That's basically what you said.

    Conservatives had no plan to EVER close Gitmo. It's unfortunate that most of its inhabitants have been TORTURED.
    This cannot be used in a court of law. So again he is hampered by Bush policies. But you disingenuously leave that out.
     
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    This is basically what Willard is saying.
     
  14. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's not FOR anything specific, it's apparently just the amount of money Romney thinks we ought to be spending on the military. You guys can figure out what to do with it (maybe a couple of hammers and a toilet seat?)

    barfo
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    All lies. And that's the truth.
     
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    That failed promise helped cost H.W. Bush the '92 election.
     
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    And Obama's failed promise may come back to be a factor in this election. I thnik he should be held accountable for teh statement and would like to hear what he says about it now.

    I still think there is a difference between a failed promise and a lie.
     
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    It's pretty easy to say what you think happened but again why didn't Romney refute it?
     
  19. DaLincolnJones

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    Interesting, so given that there is a difference, to follow the premise one is worse than the other?

    With that, then is not a failure to follow through, something that is repeted over time and continued, worse?
     
  20. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I will be interested to see how much more spirited President Obama is in the second debate. The town hall format, however, doesn't lead itself to being aggressive toward your opponent.

    To me, it was clear President Obama thought he was sitting on a big lead and underestimated how thoroughly Romney had prepared. Also, John Kerry should be fired as Romney's stand-in. He didn't help prepare him very well.
     

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