The Final Word On Obama's Birth Certificate

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    He would be impeached, removed from office. Biden would become President. All legislation would stand but would be challenged in court with it ending up with the Supreme Court to decide. Obama would be charged with campaign fraud, convicted and would be sent to prison. Upon release from prison Obama would be deported to Kenya because he's an illegal alien. After a best selling book and movie deal he would become the next CEO of Halliburton.
     
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    I don't think throwing out legislation is very realistic. No one (except for libertarians and anarchists, perhaps?) would be wanting that much more chaos. I think the courts would find a reason to rule in favor of the existing laws.

    I imagine he'd resign and Biden would become president. I don't think there is any taint on Biden in that case, he's still the VP and next in line. The electoral college elects the VP and President separately, so even if Obama's election were thrown out, it doesn't seem like Biden's would be.

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    I agree with barfo. Obama's residence is irrelevant to me, and thinking that his laws would be overturned is a fool's errand, IMO. I do believe he was born in Hawaii, and I believe his Word processed Certificate of Live Birth is legit.

    I just wonder why he won't release the actual birth record, as did the twin sisters born the day before him, at the same hospital.
     
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    I didn't say anything about Obama in that post. You're making light of the law and I'm explaining why I think the law is important. It's good to know someone's origin. If they were born in Hawaii, they were most likely raised in American schools and are integrated into our society. If they were born in China or the USSR, their learning process might have been different. We don't pluck children from schools at a young age, determine what job they will have when they get older, and start putting them through specific programs to prepare them for that job. I have no idea what life is like in Kenya, but I have a pretty good idea what life is like in Hawaii or any other state in the United States. Someone who is born here, grew up here, and lives here has a much higher chance of being loyal to this country than someone who was born somewhere else, but if you don't see the merit in the law, then I'm not going to argue with you. I just don't think it's a stupid law that should be taken lightly.
     
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    Ok, you aren't talking about Obama, who we know was raised in American schools (aside from 5 years abroad) and I would argue, is integrated into our society.

    Ok, but Obama - whether or not he was literally born here - clearly grew up here. We have lots of evidence of that. So in this case, the issue is not whether he was born and grew up here, but just whether he was born here. So I ask again, what difference does the location of birth make? John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Does that matter? Is he less of an American because he was born down there? I don't think so. It just happens to be where his mom was when she pooped him out. It has nothing to do with him whatsoever.

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    An excellent point, if somewhat orange. But Ahhnold wasn't raised in American schools, so he doesn't meet the NateBishop test.

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    Ahhnold also wouldn't be eligible for President, without an amendment to the US Constitution.

    I notice nobody wants to answer this simple question.

    Why won't Obama authorize the release of his actual Certificate of Live Birth?
     
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    Will you answer the simple question? Why won't Obama authorize the release of his actual Certificate of Live Birth?
     
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    Why do the soccer moms always want to talk to me at the the softball games? My wife is getting jealous.

    I guess it has something to do with charisma?!?!
     
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    Why do birds
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    They sound confused if they're coming to softball games for their kids' soccer matches.
     
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    It's only the Soccer Moms, though. The Softball-only Moms just aren't as hawt.
     
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    For those who think it doesn't matter, in the craziest of worlds, if it had been proven that President Bush really didn't win in 2000 while he was still President, what should have been the remedy?

    1. Immediately have President Bush resign and Cheney assumes the presidency, keeping all the legislation he had signed.

    2. Bush resigns and Cheney assumes the office, with all signed legislation being tossed.

    3. Bush and Cheney resign, Gore and Liebermann assume the offices for the remainder of the term, with all signed legislation tossed.

    4. Have an emergency Constitutional Convention to vote to amend Article II of the Constitution to allow President Bush to continue to serve.

    5. Something else I didn't think of, with an explanation--the media goes silent for years because Republicans claim that such talk is divisive and unpatriotic.

    I'm not asking to be a smartass, I'm just wondering what the positions of posters are on this issue.
     
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    Bush was elected be the electoral college and was fully qualified. The remedy would be the voters knowing this come reelection time.
     
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    They should have been forced to vacate the office, and Gore and Lieberman should have taken their place.

    Of course, it was demonstrably proven that Gore's recount would have fallen short, by the National Opinion Research Council (affiliated with the University of Chicago) in cooperation with the following right wing organizations: Associated Press, The New York Times, CNN, The Palm Beach Post, The Washington Post and the Tribune Company.
     
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    Link? If true, Republicans made a big error in not allowing a recount, because they acted as if they had something to hide.
     
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    The house of cards is starting to collapse...

     
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    Gore only wanting 3 counties scrutinized, instead of the entire state, was the mistake. The USSC would have had no equal protection argument had Gore wanted the entire state of Florida counted again and again and again. That tells me that Gore was hiding something, since he wanted some votes treated differently than others.
     
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    How come Obama's Certification of Live Birth doesn't include the birthplace of his parents? Miki Booth's son just got a short form BC on March 15, 2011, and it includes his parents' birthplaces.

    Trump seems to be on to something here. :)
     
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