The forgotten free-agent point guard

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  1. BBert

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    Felton is -- good enough. He may be the type of 'out of favor' undervalued player KP looks for. I don't think he has to be an all star to 'put us over the top.' He should definitely be on our short list of realistic PG acquisitions.
     
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    He is not forgotten....

    he just isn't a player that should be near the top of POR wish list.....

    I'd much rather see them go after guys like Mike Miller, Anthony Morrow, Randy Foye, Wes Matthews, JJ Redick, Kyle Korver, Al Harrington or Luis Scola.....
     
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    Well, we did a lot better with Miller than Blake. That should give you an inkling that a very good PG is an asset to a team and not a detriment.
     
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    I understand Miller, Morrow, Redick, or Korver--dead-eye shooters are valuable. I like Matthews too--he just knows how to play. Scola (expects to start), Foye, Harrington (don't like their game)--not interested at all

    However, I think a long-term answer at starting point guard is much more important to the future of this team than anything the guys you listed can bring, so while I'd love to see Morrow as our backup 2, given the choice I'd rather have Felton.
     
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    Rondo had a 15.8 playoff PER the year the Celtics beat the Lakers. This year, he's at 18, which is good but not great.

    Try again, because Rondo was not elite in 2008. I also meant which elite PG added to an existing roster has put their team over the top, but that's a different story.
     
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    PER has it's place, but it says nothing about the team a player is on, and what kind of production is necessary for a team to win. Boston has a great defensive team. When you have a great defensive team, you don't have to have as much offensive stats to win. Rondo was all NBA defensive team. PER doesn't say much about that.
     
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    Felton wasn't so much forgotten as summarily dismissed as a free agent option.

    He isn't that good and certainly wouldn't help Portland reach the next level.

    Why waste money on an average player when Portland already has an above average dude at that position (Miller).
     
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    I'm a reformed Sessions lover. I was wrong. I man enough to admit it. Funny how most on this board can't admit when they've made a mistake.
     
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    Initially, I was noting him as forgotten not only by Blazer fans, but by the national media. He's the best free agent point guard available in this summer of unprecedented cap room, and most people aren't even aware that he's a free agent.

    Miller is 34; Felton is 25. Felton is a better defender and outside shooter than Miller. Felton can play effectively off the ball. Miller may be a better player overall, but Felton will be around a lot longer, and would probably be a better fit next to Roy.
     
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    I like Sessions when he was with Milwaukee. But after I saw him in Minnesota, I fully admit I don't want him here anymore. Folks, you have to beware of the players that you can't see play a lot. Felton is that same way. I have seen him play though, and for the most part, I really don't want him here either.
     
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    I don't know enough about Felton to comment. If you are right, then he sounds like he would be OK. I feel like the Blazers need to shake things up a bit. We need something else on this team. It could be a PG, maybe a new PF.
    Really though that should occur at the coaching level (Thibedeau anyone? Heck I'd take *gasp* Laimbeer). We can put the Olympic team on the floor, but if Nate has the reins we will lose. One thing I will say as a caveat, is that health more then anything determined our Sub-Par season. With a consistently healthy Oden and Roy this team could look ring worthy. Will we ever get that? I don't know. God I hope so.

    Due to family things I barely saw the second half of the season and got most of my info second hand of this forum with a quick read. So to sum up I'm talking out of my ass. Go Blazers!
     
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    Felton has only impressed me this season. However he has a eFG% of 44% on jump shots. Sessions was at 37.6% last year when he was a Buck.

    Felton uses a below average amount of possessions when he's on the court, 19.2%. Certainly two different styles, it isn't necessarily the same situation.

    It would appear he could play off the ball better in a Roy backcourt.
     
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    I am very dubious that he suddenly is a good shooter. Let's look at his career FG%:

    05-06: 39.1%
    06-07: 38.4
    07-08: 41.3
    08-09: 40.8
    09-10: 45.9

    Does that seem like an aberration to anyone else? :)

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    Nash-like extrapolation coming up! He'll be a 50/40/90 guy in 3 years and MVP in 4!
     
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    Yes, but to be fair, let's look at his 2P% and 3P% separately:

    Season: 2P% 3P%
    05-06: 40.5 35.8
    06-07: 40.7 33.0
    07-08: 44.7 28.0
    08-09: 43.7 28.5
    09-10: 47.5 38.5

    His 2P% increased reasonably in his 3rd year, and then again in his 5th. And from 3-point range, he started off decent from 3, regressed, and then apparently regained his stroke this year. It's just the combination of the two events that makes it look like significantly aberrant.
     
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    Felton vs. Sessions show different motivation methods--a contract year vs. a full rookie year in the D-League.
     
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    A lot of better options out there....
     
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  18. PtldPlatypus

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    Realistic ones? Such as?
     
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    I mentioned them earlier in this thread....
     
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