OT The Government Has No Plan for Reuniting the Immigrant Families It Is Tearing Apart

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  1. MarAzul

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    Damn! That was a good effort. You touched all the bases with nothing but an infield dribble.:blush:
     
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    There's no law that states asylum seekers have to be separated from their families. It's a policy.

    In fact, per Article 31 of the 1951 Refugee Convention in Geneva (which the US is a signatory) "The contracting states shall not impose penalties on refugees who entered illegally in search of asylum if they present themselves "
     
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    Sounds like the batter faced an incompetent, error laden defense
     
  5. MarAzul

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    But, could there be a strait forward simple answer.
    One (the citizen) was eligible for bail but denied. The other (illegals) are not eligible for bail and the courts have so ruled.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/27/5890...ants-can-continue-to-be-detained-indefinitely
     
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    Nobody here seems against enforcing immigration laws. Some are just kind
    You’re gonna hurt peoples brains with facts like this
     
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    This whole thing strikes me as bull. If I were told at any border, if you cross here your children will be taken from you and you will be incarcerated, There would be nothing left to discuss.
    I am out of there, fuck this place, I find some where else to go.
    Now if these are real parents submitting to this shit, what the fuck is wrong with them?
     
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    You think they are 'crisis actors' maybe?

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    Seems like bullshit artists, not parents.
     
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    Okay, but the children are also being incarcerated, or as you like to call it, enhanced caring. And like the article pointed out, the children are still being held in this DisneyCaringWorld after the parents have been released.
     
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    Well why? but first, after thinking about this, I can't see me doing this, so why are these people? Why don't they get the asylum thing taken care of first?
     
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    Could you also provide the definition of a refugee AND the penalty for not following what you posted?
     
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    First of all NONE of that applies to people who are seeking asylum. You fucking know it so stop with this shit. But to quote us law:
    1. U.S. CodeTitle 8Chapter 12Subchapter IIPart VIII › § 1325US
    8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

    (a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts

    Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

    (b)Improper time or place; civil penalties
    Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officersshall be subject to a civil penalty of—
    (1)at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
    (2)twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
    Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed
    alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
    Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
     
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    They are guilty of b not a.
     
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    Didn't read what I posted, did you?

    Have to be on US soil to apply for asylum. Makes it hard to 'take care of it' before crossing the border.

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    The penalty is your smaller states are taken away from you and put in a cage.

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    Yes, if I could.
     
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    Me too.
     
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    Not sure what warning would do since it was disease from the white man that killed 90% of the native population in the Americas. Once Columbus landed it was over.

    In Hispaniola, Columbus’ first stop in the Americas, the native Taino population (an indigenous Arawak people) had no immunity to new infectious diseases, including smallpox, measles and influenza. There were an estimated 250,000 indigenous people in Hispaniola in 1492. By 1517, only 14,000 remained.

    Some historians say the impact of European and African settlers in the New World was more destructive than the Black Death had been in medieval Europe, possibly killing off as much as 90 percent of the native populations.
     

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