The hate for Neil is real

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  1. wizenheimer

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    Delta Variant
     
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    why not and why would that matter? Not everyone needs to vent rage period over a game with a ball...it's not as serious as armchair GMs think it is...my 2 cents...All I'm waiting for is tip off...whoever is wearing the pinwheel I'm cheering for. Enjoy the ride and let the suits sort out the payroll and staff...if Neil loses his job...no big deal...if they trade Dame and blow it all up I'll still be here ready to cheer on opening night. I don't get the rage at all. I also never got this obsession with a championship...winning one is great but the odds are never great for that come together ..in the meantime...enjoy the game...enjoy the team. I just see a lot of wasted anger prematurely burning down the house before the house is built. I think the team will be just fine moving forward but honestly, I doubt many teams are going to beat a healthy Lakers or Nets roster for a ring next season...it's a big challenge and those teams are stacked
     
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    lol..."vent rage"....maybe some are, but my opinion of Olshey hasn't change. The only thing different now Is I think he would rather trade Dame than CJ

    after 9 years, we are 8 months away from the trade deadline. "Give Olshey another 8 months before you criticize him" . Yeah, that will fly. And of course, if he fails to do anything of note in the next 8 months, some people will start saying "see what he does in the draft". Then it will be "see what he does in free agency"....then it will be "see what he does by the trade deadline"...rinse/repeat

    if Olshey trades Dame and tries to build around CJ, I won't even be watching this team anymore. My fandom is not unconditional
     
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    choices...
     
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    We've met the league minimum for roster spots at 13 and we operated under maximum roster capacity for most of last season. I do think that we'll use the TPMLE. You and @AmirIcon are right, Neil not having had a presser means there is still more to come before he gets in front of the media and tries to sell the roster as one poised to win a championship.
     
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    right...some are choosing to bitch about Olshey...others are choosing to bitch about those bitching about Olshey
     
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    If Dame gets traded, and that's a mighty big IF, the Blazers would more likely be building around whatever player they get back in the deal. If it was for Simmons, I think it's fair to say that he would be the young centerpiece to the Blazers' future. Hopefully, given the disaster that losing Dame's prime would be, the NEW GM would be looking for players to surround Simmons with, not worrying about CJ other than to find him a new team.
     
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    If Im not happy with a product and the manufacturer seems to not care, or address my concerns, Ill change products.
     
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    I'll wait until training camp to pile on and ask for his resignation. Until then, there's plenty of time to operate since none of our targets have been traded.
     
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    I am not going to look it up but I believe there is a CBA trigger that mandates the minimum roster size must be 14 rather than 13. IIRC, it has something to do with what the average roster size was the previous season, for all teams
     
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    I'm not interested in having any player in Portland that doesn't want to be here...said it many times...and there's a difference between someone saying they don't get the rage trend and someone bitching....for the record you're not the emo about your opinions...I never read "rage" into your posts but like I said...choices...you do you just understand that's not what all fans base their interest in the team on. I prefer to enjoy the team and find things to enjoy about the team...sort of a photo negative to what a large amount of people here do...I'm used to it. Some folks claim to hate Canzano but post exactly like he writes.....those folks are free to do that...if someone bothers me that much I won't be responding to their posts because I've ignored them ..I'm sure not pissed off at the Blazers
     
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    The team minimum is 13, but the league guarantees an overall average of 14 players per team and has to pay a surcharge if it's not met.
     
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    let me ask a question: is it acceptable to have arrived at the opinion that Olshey should have been fired well before this off-season?

    if it is, why would those who believe that wait till training camp to voice their displeasure?
     
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    I can answer that if you’ll let me.
    Yes absolutely!
    Just the contracts from 5-6 years ago would be plenty enough to arrive at that opinion.
    I’m hoping he can pull something off this year that goes really well but I don’t have to not want him replaced.
     
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    I think it's legitimate to think he deserves to be fired. I think it's illegitimate to think he's done with the roster and cry about it on a message board 15 times a day.

    Two very independent ideas.
     
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    there's only 13 players on the roster. Of course he's not 'done'. For instance, I'm sure he's searching for a bargain bin type of trade for Jones and will probably sign another vet minimum. I'm skeptical he'll use the TPMLE. But I do not expect any needle moving trade before training camp. Could there be? Sure. But if there aren't and people start complaining about it then, it's absolutely certain that other people will say "he's not done, wait till the trade deadline before complaining"
     
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    An Olshey variant would be ideal to get rid of the virus because: it won’t mutate due to lack of creativity and its lazy.
     
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    The majority of posts I see are freaking out thinking he's done and wants to "run it back" because he hasn't done anything yet. Conjecture isn't really helping. It almost sounds like we have more fans who want to see him fail than to see him succeed.

    I expect there to be a needle moving acquisition. If not? I'll be right there with you in wanting him gone. Not that difficult to understand.
     
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    probs to Wiz, credit where credit is due. Dude saw it 5 years ago that with Olshey the Blazers will be in no mans land
     
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    that's mostly fair, although I think you are really overstating the freak-out factor. Have you spent any time in game threads around here? Compared to them, the current emotional angst is kind of mild

    I'd also point out that this is the first off-season that has happened with Dame's future as a Blazer in doubt. So, the urge to freak is probably as strong as it has been in the Stolshey era

    also, Portland's off-season didn't really start Monday. They could have made trades immediately after Denver bounced them out of the playoffs. That's 2 months ago. All they've done in that time is trade a couple of million for a 2nd round pick
     
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