<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 10 2007, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Big Mo the topic is not even about his dam suspension it was about all the hate he recieves through the media or otherwise...jesus..BTW: Yeah it was intential because he was fouled. If the refs had actually called the foul Korver would not have been hit in the face now would he?</div>1. The hate is mostly because of the suspension...2. Whether or not he was fouled doesn't make it alright to elbow somebody in the face. :happy0144:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Mar 10 2007, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. The hate is mostly because of the suspension...2. Whether or not he was fouled doesn't make it alright to elbow somebody in the face. :happy0144:</div>1. I agree.2. Sure it does. It seemed like the refs forgot about the handchecking rule on that play and Kobe was trying to get Korver off of him. If he wasn't fouled in the first place then he would not have the right to move his arm upward but because he was the ref should not be one-sided and should allow Kobe to get out of a situation that he was only in because the ref didn't call the first foul.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 10 2007, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Big Mo the topic is not even about his dam suspension it was about all the hate he recieves through the media or otherwise...jesus..BTW: Yeah it was intential because he was fouled. If the refs had actually called the foul Korver would not have been hit in the face now would he?</div>So? Allen Iverson has recieved a ton of hate by the media throughout his career but you don;t see Sixer fans complaining.Seriously though, you and Kobe_Bryant24 need to figure out that Kobe isn't perfect on or off the court. Yes his ego has gotten better and he's become a WAY better teammate and I've gained a lot of respect for him for that but every time something negative is said about Kobe you two have an excuse. In your eyes Kobe can do nothing wrong and it's getting annoying.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 10 2007, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>2. Sure it does. It seemed like the refs forgot about the handchecking rule on that play and Kobe was trying to get Korver off of him. If he wasn't fouled in the first place then he would not have the right to move his arm upward but because he was the ref should not be one-sided and should allow Kobe to get out of a situation that he was only in because the ref didn't call the first foul.</div>That makes zero sense to me... so because the referee didn't call Korver for a foul (I didn't see the game, so I'm just going by the highlights), Kobe has the right to elbow Korver in the neck/face? I don't think so (even if Korver said he's cool with it)...If that's the logic, everybody in the NBA has the right to elbow people in the neck/face all the time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>2. Whether or not he was fouled doesn't make it alright to elbow somebody in the face.</div>Bingo. Just because he doesn't get fouls called doesn't mean he should always be bi*ching to the refs, flailing his arms out to draw a foul (which has hurt 2 people already this season), or trying to intentionally hurt someone (especially in places like head or neck).
I will admit I strongly disliked the guy in the past. But this season, he has played and acted some what different than in the past. He had my "MVP so far" vote and I was starting to like him, then this starts up. Jeez Kobe, just when you were starting to grow on me.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Mar 10 2007, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm just saying, every fricken day we get a new topic on the Lakers/Kobe and how the Kobe gets hated on...etc...and all of it over a .500 team...thats what I'm saying....It's like the world revolves around Kobe, what people think of Kobe and the Lakers....my god, they're a .500 team..</div>They're a .500 team when they have 5 of their top 7 players out for long periods of time. When they're healthy or even close to healthy (they were 26-15 after Odom had been out 20 games, Kwame had missed 15 games, and Chris Mihm had missed every game) they're a good ballclub.And I hate to break it to you, but it's the Lakers, they're pretty much always gonna be talked about. They have the greatest coach of all time, the best and one of the most controversial players in the league, and they reside in Los Angeles. Whether they should or not, they'll be a hot topic for the NBA for years to come.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Mar 11 2007, 01:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That makes zero sense to me... so because the referee didn't call Korver for a foul (I didn't see the game, so I'm just going by the highlights), Kobe has the right to elbow Korver in the neck/face? I don't think so (even if Korver said he's cool with it)...If that's the logic, everybody in the NBA has the right to elbow people in the neck/face all the time.</div>Wow. You are completely misunderstanding my point. Kobe was fouled (handchecking) and because of it was forced to hit Korver to create room to get out of the position he was in because the ref hadn't call the foul.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Mar 10 2007, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So? Allen Iverson has recieved a ton of hate by the media throughout his career but you don;t see Sixer fans complaining.Seriously though, you and Kobe_Bryant24 need to figure out that Kobe isn't perfect on or off the court. Yes his ego has gotten better and he's become a WAY better teammate and I've gained a lot of respect for him for that but every time something negative is said about Kobe you two have an excuse. In your eyes Kobe can do nothing wrong and it's getting annoying.</div>How f*cking dare you compare me with Kobe_Bryant24 (No pun intended) I don't post stupid comments about other teams, I don't make excuses for what he does off the court but on the court I back him up for everything. Can you blame me? I pretty much have to when people act like because they don't believe he's a good person that he is not a great player. Do you understand what I mean. Now granted, most of the fans here on BBW always acknowledge that Kobe is a great player but don't like his personality...and that is fine. This topic was not about that. This topic was just about the hate he has gotten recently through the media and to discuss it. That's it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 11 2007, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How f*cking dare you compare me with Kobe_Bryant24 (No pun intended) I don't post stupid comments about other teams, I don't make excuses for what he does off the court but on the court I back him up for everything. Can you blame me? I pretty much have to when people act like because they don't believe he's a good person that he is not a great player. Do you understand what I mean. Now granted, most of the fans here on BBW always acknowledge that Kobe is a great player but don't like his personality...and that is fine. This topic was not about that. This topic was just about the hate he has gotten recently through the media and to discuss it. That's it.</div>Word.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 11 2007, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow. You are completely misunderstanding my point. Kobe was fouled (handchecking) and because of it was forced to hit Korver to create room to get out of the position he was in because the ref hadn't call the foul.</div>I find it very hard to believe that Kobe was forced to hit Korver (or anybody else for that matter) in the neck/face because he was handchecked and the referee didn't call it.But if that's what you believe, well, good for you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 11 2007, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How f*cking dare you compare me with Kobe_Bryant24 (No pun intended) I don't post stupid comments about other teams, I don't make excuses for what he does off the court but on the court I back him up for everything. Can you blame me? I pretty much have to when people act like because they don't believe he's a good person that he is not a great player. Do you understand what I mean. Now granted, most of the fans here on BBW always acknowledge that Kobe is a great player but don't like his personality...and that is fine. This topic was not about that. This topic was just about the hate he has gotten recently through the media and to discuss it. That's it.</div>Quote me one post you've ever made acknowledging Kobe did something stupid or wrong. Also I wasn't comparing you to KobeBrytant24 on NBA knowledge but on the fact that I have never seen you or him admit Kobe did something bad on or off of the court.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Mar 11 2007, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Quote me one post you've ever made acknowledging Kobe did something stupid or wrong. Also I wasn't comparing you to KobeBrytant24 on NBA knowledge but on the fact that I have never seen you or him admit Kobe did something bad on or off of the court.</div>Tell you the truth I doubt that I have ever acknowledged that Kobe has done something wrong on the court but off the court I have never back him up or make excuses for his actions. I tell people all the time when people say it's unfair the type of scrutiny Kobe gets for the Colorado rape case, I say that's just what Kobe gets for cheating on his wife and he knows it. It's just when people criticize his personality and use that as a reason he is not the best in the game that I feel I have to defend Kobe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 11 2007, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tell you the truth I doubt that I have ever acknowledged that Kobe has done something wrong on the court but off the court I have never back him up or make excuses for his actions. I tell people all the time when people say it's unfair the type of scrutiny Kobe gets for the Colorado rape case, I say that's just what Kobe gets for cheating on his wife and he knows it. It's just when people criticize his personality and use that as a reason he is not the best in the game that I feel I have to defend Kobe.</div>You need to respect other peoples opinions. Just because I don't think Kobe is the best player in the nba doesn't mean I am a hater. Kobe is definitely top 5 but I have a different opinion on who I think is the most valuable to their team. I feel so far Dirk has had the better year but things can change.
its not that I really hate kobe, I just hate the lakers. ohhhh do I hate the lakers. game 7, 2000 western conference finals.........
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 11 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tell you the truth I doubt that I have ever acknowledged that Kobe has done something wrong on the court but off the court I have never back him up or make excuses for his actions. I tell people all the time when people say it's unfair the type of scrutiny Kobe gets for the Colorado rape case, I say that's just what Kobe gets for cheating on his wife and he knows it. It's just when people criticize his personality and use that as a reason he is not the best in the game that I feel I have to defend Kobe.</div>Thanks for proving my point :happy0144:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Mar 12 2007, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for proving my point :happy0144:</div>What are you talking about? You didn't prove a thing. I never stated that I back Kobe off the court and never have. On the court I do daily. For you to be proving a point, I would have to be contradicting myself...which I am not.
I used to hate Kobe because of what happened in CO and what not, but I have gained respect for him on the court and like his game. Here in CO, people still hate him and call him a rapest.
