Uhh. You seem to read the things you pick apart but if you are going to be literal about it.... Greenwald didn't say they were investigating Carter Page Trump Campaign member. He said they were abusing the fisa process to spy on a US citizen during the campaign. You assume Greenwald is trying mislead the reader without proof. An FBI lawyer faking documents is a nothing burger amirite? If a lawyer faked documents to get warrants on a gang member most everyone that posts here would freak....rightly so but somehow not in this case because Horowitz didn't find any bias written on paper...just 17 oopsies all against Trump. Wonder what would happen if the refs called 17 travels against the Blazers and none against Houston in a game?
He most certainly strongly implied it. If it was just a US citizen, what is the relevance of mentioning the campaign? Yes. As I said, I'm familiar with his style. Same as I'm familiar with yours. That is definitely a somethingburger. It just doesn't have anything to do with the campaign. None of the oopsies were 'against Trump'. Again, Carter Page was NOT associated with Trump at the time. Wonder what would happen if the sun rose tomorrow morning? barfo
The FISA abuse was continual from 2013-2017 at a minimum, which means during the campaign, and while you are making assumptions you can assume from the corrupt career history of Mueller, Comey, Clapper, Brennan that they abused it anytime they felt it helped their goals.
barfo's desperate deflections aside, READ THE REPORT. Just the tip of the iceberg. Years of prosecutions to come, whole intelligence agencies to be closed or re-structured, maybe even a whole new court created for oversight of agency heads, to prevent it from happening again.
That all might be true, but you haven't presented any evidence that it is. And even if it were true, it still wouldn't be relevant to the campaign, because Carter Page was the only Trump-related FISA warrant, and that one was issued after he was off the campaign. barfo
https://nypost.com/2019/12/17/ig-report-suggests-fbi-might-cheat-on-all-its-fisa-wiretap-requests/ IG report suggests FBI might cheat on all its FISA wiretap requests By Jacob Sullum December 17, 2019 | 8:33pm Former FBI Director James Comey initially portrayed last week’s damning report on the bureau’s probe of Russiagate as a vindication. This week, Comey admitted that Inspector General Michael Horowitz discovered “real sloppiness,” which is “concerning.” That characterization does not begin to cover the problems described by Horowitz, which this week prompted a highly unusual public rebuke from the court that reviews secret warrant applications under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The FISA court called the FBI’s conduct “antithetical to the heightened duty of candor” that applies in such cases. Comey may take comfort in the fact that Horowitz didn’t find political bias. The rest of us can hardly be reassured by the implication that the FBI is inept rather than corrupt. Comey, who ran the FBI from September 2013 to May 2017, is not just self-interested but demonstrably untrustworthy on this subject. Last year, he claimed information from former British spy Christopher Steele, which according to Horowitz “played a central and essential role” in the decision to surveil Page, was merely “part of a broader mosaic of facts” supporting the four warrants issued by judges under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Comey also said he had “total confidence that the FISA process was followed and that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful, responsible way.” Yet Horowitz found that the first warrant application included “seven significant inaccuracies and omissions” that weren’t corrected in the three renewal applications, which were marred by “10 additional significant errors.” Those “errors” included blatant exaggerations of Steele’s proven reliability, the failure to note that his work was opposition research commissioned by Democrats, even after that became clear, the omission of the fact that Steele himself was “desperate” to prevent Trump’s election and a false denial of Steele’s contacts with the press. The FBI also neglected to mention that people who had worked with Steele questioned his judgment, that Steele’s “primary sub-source” had directly contradicted claims in his “dossier,” that Page had reported his contact with a Russian spook to the CIA and that Page said he had never met key figures in the purported conspiracy described by Steele. Inspector general says Comey not vindicated by Russia report “FBI personnel fell far short of the requirement in FBI policy that they ensure that all factual statements in a FISA application are ‘scrupulously accurate,’ ” Horowitz concluded. Even that assessment is charitable, especially since an FBI lawyer deliberately doctored an email to conceal Page’s relationship with the CIA, which had deemed him truthful. The pattern of these “errors” isn’t random, since all of them served to bolster the appearance of probable cause. Horowitz told the Senate Judiciary Committee his investigators “did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or problems we identified,” and he allowed that they might reflect “intentionality,” saying “it’s fair” to “look at all of these 17 events and wonder how it could be purely incompetence.” It would be reassuring if the FBI’s misfeasance could be explained by anti-Trump bias. But as Horowitz noted in his report, the fact that “so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked teams on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations,” one that “was briefed to the highest levels within the FBI” and “FBI officials expected would eventually be subjected to close scrutiny,” suggests a much deeper problem involving overzealousness, confirmation bias and tunnel vision — tendencies that threaten all Americans who value their privacy and reputations. Even Comey, who claims the dishonesty described by Horowitz “does not reflect the FBI culture of compliance and candor,” wonders if the failure might be “systemic,” meaning there could be “problems with other cases.” Too bad he was never in a position to explore that issue.
You haven't presented any evidence that Page's warrant was the only one, which is preposterous to assume given the level of deceipt and corruption by Intelligence Agency heads, and Page's warrant was issued before he was on the campaign (while he was an informant for the CIA) but re-authorized 3 times over the years. He and PapaD were the planned stooges framed by the Deep State to create the whole miserable failure of the Russian Hoax.
More likely, there's exactly one guy that is going to get prosecuted out of the IG report, and that's the lawyer that altered a document. barfo
Right, I can't prove there weren't more FISA warrants. Nor can I prove that live babies weren't served for lunch on Fridays in the FBI cafeteria. Your statement about when Page's FISA warrant was issued is factually incorrect. It was after he left the campaign. barfo
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