Politics The Jihad Against Fauci

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't decide where this topic belongs: the coronavirus thread....the Biden vs trump thread....the orange man bad thread....the corruption-R-us thread....the Manchurian president thread....the end is near thread....so many options

    anyway, it finally happened that Fauci evolved into an enemy of the giant orange asshole, as all people do who try and state facts and tell the truth. That's not to say Fauci's covid record is without faults, but the facts change with the data, and his job is to interpret the data

    anyway:

    "Fauci has tried to do his job as a scientist, elevating his discipline above his self-interest. The trouble here is that when science has contradicted the President, Fauci has kept faith with science. Whether it's testing, over-hyped treatments, or the country's response to the pandemic to date, he hasn't been afraid to speak truth to power. Having chosen a life-saving mission over the President's happy talk, Fauci has found himself marginalized."

    "Last Friday, Trump seemed to signal a campaign to discredit Fauci when he told Fox News talk host Sean Hannity, "Dr. Fauci's a nice man but he's made a lot of mistakes."

    After Trump's dig, his aides went to the media with a list of statements that the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease had made and later revised. For example, in March, when the US had recorded few cases, Fauci said the virus was "not a major threat" and that "people should not be walking around with masks." The catalogue of "sins" circulated to journalists was offered anonymously, and resembled the kind of opposition research used to frame political attacks
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    "Note the difference between Fauci and Trump: One man, a dedicated public servant, offered his best analysis and, when new data emerged, corrected himself without hesitation so that lives might be saved. The other dug in to a don't-worry-about it position and has refused to budge as the passing months have led the US to become the leading global hotspot.

    Just as the pandemic has revealed Trump's tragic limitations, his abuse of Fauci confirms the President's deep character flaws. Fauci's lifelong devotion to science has been guided by a commitment to facts and a focus on helping others. Trump's lifelong devotion, on the other hand, has been to himself. This has led him to consistently deny facts that conflict with his ends, while he seeks credit for all that is good and blames others for everything that goes wrong. Along the way he keeps a mental scoresheet, noting who places Trump above all else, and who might value, say, human life more"

    "On the day when Trump spoke to Fox News host Sean Hannity about Fauci's "mistakes" the President used his constitutional power to commute the prison sentence of his longtime buddy Roger Stone. Convicted of felonies then committed to protect Trump, Stone's crimes included obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and lying to protect his friend. That Stone was protected by the President while Fauci is being undermined says all you need to know about Trump's priorities, values, and character."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/opinions/fauci-trump-white-house-dantonio/index.html

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    "If you’re lucky enough to live in New Zealand, the coronavirus nightmare has been mostly over since June. After more than two weeks with no new cases, the government lifted almost all restrictions that month. The borders are still shut, but inside the country, normal life returned.

    It’s coming back elsewhere too. Taiwan, where most days this month no new cases have been reported, just held the Taipei Film Festival, and a recent baseball game drew 10,000 spectators. Italy was once the epicenter of Europe’s outbreak and remains in a state of emergency, but with just a few hundred new cases a day in the whole country, bars are open and tourists have started returning, though of course Americans remain banned. According to The New York Times’s figures, there were 321 new cases in all of Canada last Friday.

    And America? We had 68,241. As of last week, the worst per capita outbreak on the planet was in Arizona, followed by Florida. The world is closed to us; American passports were once coveted, but now only a few dozen nations will let us in. Lawrence O. Gostin, professor of global health law at Georgetown, told me he doesn’t expect American life to feel truly normal before summer 2022. Two years of our lives, stolen by Donald Trump
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    As our country plunges into a black hole of unchecked illness, death and pariahdom, the administration is waging a PR war on its own top disease expert, Anthony Fauci, trying to convince news outlets that he can’t be trusted. “The move to treat Dr. Fauci as if he were a warring political rival comes as he has grown increasingly vocal in his concerns about the national surge in coronavirus cases,” reported The Times
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/13/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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    it's the rinse/repeat cycle of the trump white house: as soon a somebody shows too much loyalty to the facts, and not enough to trump, they transition from a PR asset to an "enemy of the state".

    I've been thinking for weeks, if not months, that Fauci should re-sign. I know people feel like they can be more effective in the room, but that's delusional because any room trump is in is beyond redemption. Trump poisons everything he touches, and the latest institutions poisoned are the CDC and the NIH. It's only taken trump less than one term to corrupt just about every federal department. The CDC used to be the most respected public health agency in the world. They led, and the rest of the world followed, including the WHO. But in 3 years, trump took the CDC from 1st place to last place, totally discredited and demoralized; and international laughing stock. And the NIH isn't faring any better

    Fauci can't stand against the tsunami of sewage slamming out of the white house every day. He's not going to be effective behind the scenes, especially now that he's an enemy of the state

    so yeah, he should re-sign, and he should re-sign publicly and loudly. He should preserve his dignity and leverage his reputation into a counter-weight to trump's corruption and incompetence. He'd get plenty of air-time and he wouldn't even have to go full-bore-fuck-trump, he'd just need to state the best assumptions the science and data are revealing. This would do a world of good, and we need all of that we can get
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    and right on cue:

    "And so, Fauci should quit.


    Quitting would allow Fauci to speak to the public more freely about the ongoing health crisis than he can now. Even without an official portfolio, he would almost certainly still be welcome on any news network, podcast, YouTube channel, or newspaper op-ed page to sound the alarm and make the case for what he believes is the correct approach to containing the pandemic. He wouldn't even have to criticize Trump directly, since he clearly seems averse to doing so. But he would have the freedom to offer his best advice to the American public, who right now seem more willing than the president to take Fauci seriously.


    Many state and local health officials across the country have faced death threats and vicious personal attacks for the crime of trying to keep their citizens alive by disseminating scientific information. That is terrible. Unlike those officials, Fauci is positioned to affect the public discourse even after he leaves government. For the sake of America's health, he should do so."

    https://theweek.com/articles/925144/why-fauci-should-quit

    great minds I guess

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    this seems to not be connected to Fauci, but in a very real way, it fits a policy of "kill the messenger, but even better: burn the message"

    "From the beginning of the crisis in the United States, there have been numerous reports of the danger faced by healthcare workers dealing directly with COVID-19 patients, with the frustration they face in dealing with a disease where nothing seems to work, and the absolute exhaustion from day after day of overrun emergency rooms and ICUs. What there has not been is an outcry from hospitals over problems in recording data.


    However, as The Washington Post reports, that’s what the White House is proposing. In a letter slated to go out this week, Trump will ask governors to “consider” sending the guard to hospitals to “help improve data collection.” As the president of the American Hospital Association states, this “makes no sense.” If the National Guard is going to take a more active role in handling the coronavirus pandemic, double-checking hospital data does not really seem like the best use of their skills and abilities.


    If the whole idea isn’t suspicious enough to begin with, this plan coincides with a new directive that would eliminate sending data to the CDC. Instead, data will be sent through state agencies and federal contractors to new central federal reporting from HHS."

    (I can't read the original source from the Washington Post as it's behind a pay wall)

    "The idea of using the National Guard for data review has apparently come up a number of times in the last few weeks. That includes at meetings between hospital leaders and the White House in both June and July. Hospital officials ignored the idea because “it’s silly.” But not everyone let the idea slip so easily, one industry official called the discussion “an offhand threat,” directed at hospitals White House coronavirus task force response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx. Birx complained that hospitals were not properly reporting data, while hospital officials said that it was HHS that had issues.


    While the current draft of the letter to governors asks them to consider using the National Guard, an earlier draft directed them to deploy the guard to oversee hospital data. However, there is little doubt that no matter which verb is deployed in the final draft, governors eager to please Trump will treat this as a command. That means that clerks in hospitals in the states which are right now at the center of the spike in new cases are likely to find someone in uniform looking over their shoulders as they report information on cases and deaths … to make sure that they’re doing it right.
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    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...uard-to-hospitals-to-oversee-data-on-COVID-19

    this dovetails perfectly into the right-wing campaign to discredit public health care workers while arguing that Covid death numbers are "exaggerated". It's from the same corrupt mindset that says if we test less, the numbers will be better. There is no bottom to the corruption of these assholes
     
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  2. julius

    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It belongs in the "Trump is a fucking moron" thread.
     
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    I keep coming back to the same question: how can anybody in good faith defend this lunatic?
     
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  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Gotta put the blame somewhere, anywhere but himself.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Which one?
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Fauchi?
     
  7. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Damn you CC.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes.
     
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