Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Because they are moderate Republicans
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Don't tell that to a democrat though. They'll pull a Mike Tyson and bite your ears off. :biglaugh:
     
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    It's okay. I can take it. They no longer care about climate change or pollution, they no longer care about education or research and development.

    They care about keeping their corporate overlords rich and making emotionally charged political statements.

    They aren't as bad as the MAGA fools, but moderate Republicans have never been as bad as the far right lunatics.

    I just wish we had some logical democrats (somewhat progressive) or other party that could actually compete.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I wish we had better voters, as long as we are wishing for things we aren't going to ever get.

    Oh, and a pony. I want a pony.

    barfo
     
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    It's the system.

    Nobody worth a damn can make a decent living as a politician. You have to be crooked as a politician to bring in as much as you could in the private sector.

    So you get the lowest common denominator (and those who get no corporate support).

    The voters aren't actually the problem, IMO. That's by design.
     
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    Disagree. There is nothing in the design that says politicians shouldn't be paid a fair wage.

    Voters consistently punish politicians for salary increases, so they don't often try.

    If voters would treat lawmaking as a real job that they want to hire the best candidate for, they'd get plenty of good quality candidates.

    barfo
     
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    This is a result of the system we have, which rewards (demands) corruption.
     
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    Not the result, the cause.

    barfo
     
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    Why are the voters so uneducated (or misinformed)?
     
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    You make a good point - there is a vicious cycle here, for sure. The voters are uneducated because prior voters decided that education wasn't important.

    The voters make the system worse, and the system makes the voters worse.

    barfo
     
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    And from everything I've ever seen or experienced you can't improve the voters without first changing the system (short of tremendous suffering like Europe saw in WWI and WWII).
     
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    Have you examples of improving the system w/o improving the voters?

    barfo
     
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    Europe after WW2. Japan after WW2... Germany as well...

    The US South after the Civil War...

    I feel like Canada did it...

    The Nordic and Scandinavian countries somehow went from Vikings to some of the happiest, best educated, and most healthy people in the world.

    I'm hoping we can do it without the devastating shock of those wars.
     
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    Are we sure that the Vikings weren't happy, healthy, and well-educated?

    barfo
     
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    No, no we are not sure.
     
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    When you say voters are uneducated, do you include yourself or is it just those other people?
     
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    Anybody who votes based on feelings rather than unbiased data supported logic.
     
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