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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Why do people assume women vote monolithically?
     
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    How did they get all of that from 'binders full of women'? Where did the cooking and cleaning come from, or the 'it sucks to hire women'? Just curious. Many employers have binders of resumes. Getting offended by that statement makes me think they're just looking for a way to get offended, but I'm not a woman so..
     
  3. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    fuck that, raw dog baby
     
  5. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    the binders thing was just another way to dehumanize him.

    "bring me binders full of women"

    it just sounds silly
     
  6. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    i like that!

    barfo
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    ^^^ It's funny because it seems true.
     
  8. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Momentum seems to have stopped for Romney

    "Momentum" is an odd term in political polling, now that I think about it. After all, in physics it applies to the behavior of objects sans outside forces, while in politics there are countless outside forces hammering away at candidates minute-by-minute. Author makes an interesting point:

    Anyway, the last game-changing really good news Romney has had was the first debate. Since then it seems like Obama had two winning debates (the second of which I doubt hardly anybody saw, but they at least read the commentary.) And a VP debate that's already been long forgotten. So it seems a little like an extra convention bounce that's tapering off, rather than a gathering force. A few minor stories like Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama and the whole "abortion being God's will" might've shaved a fraction of a percent off Romney's polling, but I think it's more an absence of good news for him as opposed to a few minor hits.

    Kind of feels like Romney has to come up with a real headline-grabber if he wants to win this thing. Not sure how he does it.
     
  9. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    women were 60% of the 2008 vote.
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't know, mook. Nate Silver posts a bunch of polls with a bunch of spin that simply doesn't match up with the raw numbers on RCP.

    For polls ended on 10/21 or later:
    Romney +3, +2, +3, Obama +2, Romney +1, +3

    The four previous polls were tie, Obama +2, +3, Romney +2

    So 5 out of 6 most recent polls for Romney, 4 of those > +1.

    1 of the previous 4 polls for Romney, Obama > +1 in two of those.

    Sure looks like momentum to me.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
     
  11. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    This article is quite interesting. Specifically the part I quote.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82948.html

    “Time poll shows the President up 60-30” among early voters. That sub-sample was asked of 145 people and was one of many of similar ilk (with a huge variation in results). Their central data argument is that 43 more people told Time’s pollster over a two-day window they supported Obama. If that is their best claim to a lead in Ohio, it is a troubling picture for the president.

    I have always been a believer in data telling me the full story. Truth is, nobody knows what will happen on Election Day. But here is what we do know: 220,000 fewer Democrats have voted early in Ohio compared with 2008. And 30,000 more Republicans have cast their ballots compared with four years ago. That is a 250,000-vote net increase for a state Obama won by 260,000 votes in 2008.
     
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    ^^^ That said, the polling data is really mixed still. Obama appears to have the advantage in enough battleground states that he can run out the clock and win. The media is dominated by stories presenting the 60-30 anecdote (among early voters, for Obama), which could discourage voters from showing up at the polls for Romney.

    Obama has never been at or above 50% in the RCP average, which tells me there's not a majority of support for him - a distinct decline from the 53% he was elected with in 2008. They say incumbents at 47% in the polls, or below 50%, don't get re-elected.

    Obama's been ahead in just 3 of the last 10 national polls, and hit 50% (barely) in one of them, 49 in no other of these polls.

    Amazingly, he's coughed up a huge lead (the 2008 election results) to... Romney. Go figure. Romney is... you know... not the world's greatest candidate.
     
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    "Amazingly, he's coughed up a huge lead (the 2008 election results) to... Romney. Go figure. Romney is... you know... not the world's greatest candidate. "


    You know, I would have agreed with you when he first started running. But the more I read on the guy, the more I like him. I think if he gets the nod and does just a few things, like the oil pipeline, kicks in off shore and the alaska oil fields and follows through on just half of his five points, this econemy would come back in a big way.

    He does not have the support of the unions that barry has, nor does he have to ballance the tree huggers aginst those that want to produce rether than consume. I think Mitt could be in a position to be a real hero.
     
  14. barfo

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    I guess if spin is interesting to you, then that might be interesting. Here's a fact: Ohio doesn't register by party. So how does this writer know that 220,000 fewer democrats have voted? By making it up.

    barfo
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    Which is not the same thing as a guess.

    Do you think big numbers of Democrats wanted to vote for Romney, or Cain, or Paul? The top of the dem ticket may have been settled, but every primary race for every other office wasn't.
     
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    pick nits....
     
  19. barfo

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    I didn't say he was guessing. I said he was making it up.

    No, I think they wanted to vote for Santorum, Perry, or Bachmann.

    barfo
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    I want Romney to lose though.

    You people need to raise the bar, the capitalists in here I mean.
     

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