btw, Phil Jackson is the one coach who is not afraid to bash the refs if he thought it to be lopsided. in the post game press conference, Phil said the foul disparity was in direct proportion with the Pistons being the aggressor....while the Lakers were just reacting.
Now it's time to blame the officiating, huh? Whenever the Lakers get the calls, it's the best call. But when the Lakers don't, it's all on the officials. I'm not saying that there are not bad calls, but the great teams roll with the punches. How about driving more. Jump shots aren't gonna get you to the foul line and change the game. I personally feel like the Lakers were embarrassed. I don't want to see that happening to such a great team. They weren't communicating on Defense and not helping Shaq or Kobe get open looks. One problem for the Lakers is the fact that the Pistons don't have to double-team on Shaq because of Big Ben. Kobe is the embodiment of Jordan's skills, but here's what will show he's a legend. This is the type of situation that will show that he can be a leader and take them to victory.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Now it's time to blame the officiating, huh? Whenever the Lakers get the calls, it's the best call. But when the Lakers don't, it's all on the officials. I'm not saying that there are not bad calls, but the great teams roll with the punches.</div> Wait, is that coming from a T-wolve fan? Lemme guess, you were upset in game 6 of the WCF even though the Lakers had 14 fouls in the 2nd quarter eh? Anyways, back on topic. Here are just some random things I came up with after taking notes on last nights game: "I am going to teach my kid to be the dirtiest player in the NBA" said Corliss Williamson, who played 15 mins, had NO fouls, and shot twice as many free-throws as Kobe. Game 1: @ LA Det: 21-30 in free-throws Lal: 14-18 Game 2: @ LA Det: 21-31 Lal: 17-25 Game 3: @ DET Det: 21-30 Lal: 8-13 That brings the total to 63-91 for the Pistons and only 39-56 for the Lakers if my math is correct. The Pisstons have shot 35 more free-throws than the Lakers! Enjoy the FACTS girls and boys!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">Wait, is that coming from a T-wolve fan? Lemme guess, you were upset in game 6 of the WCF even though the Lakers had 14 fouls in the 2nd quarter eh? Anyways, back on topic. Here are just some random things I came up with after taking notes on last nights game: "I am going to teach my kid to be the dirtiest player in the NBA" said Corliss Williamson, who played 15 mins, had NO fouls, and shot twice as many free-throws as Kobe. Game 1: @ LA Det: 21-30 in free-throws Lal: 14-18 Game 2: @ LA Det: 21-31 Lal: 17-25 Game 3: @ DET Det: 21-30 Lal: 8-13 That brings the total to 63-91 for the Pistons and only 39-56 for the Lakers if my math is correct. The Pisstons have shot 35 more free-throws than the Lakers! Enjoy the FACTS girls and boys!</div> You wonder why they shot that many free throws? Becuase they took it to the rack and played very agrresive. That's how.When the lakers do this then theyll take more free throws. Plain and simple
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">Wait, is that coming from a T-wolve fan? Lemme guess, you were upset in game 6 of the WCF even though the Lakers had 14 fouls in the 2nd quarter eh? </div> Did the Lakers win that game? Hmmm, like I said, great teams roll with the punches. Have the Lakers become a jumpshooting team. I think so. The Pistons drive more, are better defensively, and seem to be more intense in with their energy. Everyone has stated before that the Lakers turn it on when they feel like it, but now their short a major player (Malone) and haven't been able to do so. I personally don't think the Lakers are too worried, but have to be concerned when they have to play Brian Cook in the finals. I respect the Lakers, always have, and see they've been getting some bad calls (Ball rolls off of Hunter out of bounds and is awarded to the Pistons) but they need to adapt to how the officiating is going and force the refs to make the call. Don't be blinded by the purple and gold, and see the light.
Lets just face it I am not a fan of either team but I think it is just pure karma on the Lakers. Because They picked 2 of the worst luck players in the NBA more Malone then Payton. Karl Malone is pure bad luck you get him on your team your sure not to win in the playoffs or even in the Finals. Thats why it is good for him that he's injured because I never liked Malone ever since he said he didn't want to play on the court with somebody that had HIV and we all know who I'm talking about Magic Johnson. Thats why Karl never played on the same floor with Magic on that All-Star game comeback. And now he wants to play on the Lakers how quick real Laker fans forget. But then again nobody knew who was on the Lakers after Magic Johnson left and then Shaq came in. Cause I ask any laker fan if they could even name any players from that time and they wouldn't know. I think the Lakers would be a much better team if they didnt have Malone on it. I like Payton because I really think they had a legitamite chance of betting the Chicago Bulls in that finals. I really wanted Seattle to when they had an awesome team with Kemp(in his prime), Payton, Shrempf, Perkins, McMIllan and their bench was dope. The Lakers showed that their bench had no heart to try ti make a comeback. they really need to get their act together. The only reason want to see the Lakers win is I want Payton to win a championship. Because Jordan stopped alot of people from winning championships. I.E. Barkley, Ewing, Price, Miller, Payton, Malone, Stockton, Drexler and the list goes on.
Shaq and Kobe are the only ones playing aggresive on the team <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">Wait, is that coming from a T-wolve fan? Lemme guess, you were upset in game 6 of the WCF even though the Lakers had 14 fouls in the 2nd quarter eh? Anyways, back on topic. Here are just some random things I came up with after taking notes on last nights game: "I am going to teach my kid to be the dirtiest player in the NBA" said Corliss Williamson, who played 15 mins, had NO fouls, and shot twice as many free-throws as Kobe. Game 1: @ LA Det: 21-30 in free-throws Lal: 14-18 Game 2: @ LA Det: 21-31 Lal: 17-25 Game 3: @ DET Det: 21-30 Lal: 8-13 That brings the total to 63-91 for the Pistons and only 39-56 for the Lakers if my math is correct. The Pisstons have shot 35 more free-throws than the Lakers! Enjoy the FACTS girls and boys!</div> The Lakers have to play my aggressive and Kobe needs to stop crying about fouls and do what he is good at taking it to the rim and drawing the foul (stop being a little girl and take the hit). Because Kobe is great and that is what he does detriot is keeping the from taking it to the hoop which they need to penetrate more. Payton, Rush, and Kobe could do it. That and Detriot is show more effort on the boards. Detriot was getting so many second chance shots. As bad as their shooting is if you keep giving them those second chance shots sooner or later they are going to make'em in like they did on Thursday
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">how about that MDE ?</div> There was a foul called on that play. And to choose a pic of Slava, who gets NO love from the refs, is rediculous. He is the ref's whipping boy. Leave poor Slava out of this. Just face it, the officiating is a traveshamockery, and the stats prove it!! :thumbsdow
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">I hate Rip in a way because he gets 1,000,000 screens set for him and because he gets wide open looks he becomes a superstar. *!</div> uhh....ut....ppppppffffWWHHHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA OH BABY!! WHERES THE HYPOCRISY POLICE WHEN YOU NEED EM?????? THIS COMING FROM A DIE HARD KOBE FAN!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA!!!!! IF KOBE DIDNT HAVE SHAQ AND HAD TO BE DOUBLED ALL THE TIME LIKE OTHER STAR GAURDS YOU COULD FORGET ALLLLLLLLLLL THE JORDAN TALK IF KOBE DIDNT HAVE ALL THOSE SHAQTACULAR OPEN LOOKS HED BE.......PAUL PIERCE
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">OH BABY!! WHERES THE HYPOCRISY POLICE WHEN YOU NEED EM?????? THIS COMING FROM A DIE HARD KOBE FAN!! AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA!!!!! IF KOBE DIDNT HAVE SHAQ AND HAD TO BE DOUBLED ALL THE TIME LIKE OTHER STAR GAURDS YOU COULD FORGET ALLLLLLLLLLL THE JORDAN TALK IF KOBE DIDNT HAVE ALL THOSE SHAQTACULAR OPEN LOOKS HED BE.......PAUL PIERCE </div> Paul Pierce? I don't think so. Kobe is one of, if not the most competitive and multi-talented player in the league. Shaq may help Kobe by setting screens for him, but Kobe is a pretty dang good player moving without the ball as well.
exactly. and without shaq to be the center of the opposingDs attention, kobe would actually get double teamed now and then and hed be Paul Pierce, one of the most competitive and multi-talented players in the league. but not the best. and certainly not the best of all time. and not good enough to lead his team to a title
I give alot of credit to Detroit's D. Damn, their just all over the place. I've never seen Shaq take so many hook or whatever he took shots from so far. Ben Wallace constantly stripped at the ball before Shaq could get it above his head. Man, I'm really hoping for GP to finally do something. GP I still believe in you.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">I give alot of credit to Detroit's D. Damn, their just all over the place. I've never seen Shaq take so many hook or whatever he took shots from so far. Ben Wallace constantly stripped at the ball before Shaq could get it above his head. Man, I'm really hoping for GP to finally do something. GP I still believe in you. </div> this is a perfect fan to my eyes, i've never seen a laker fan have respect to another team!! wow! i've never seen a laker fan admit that the opponent played better.. at least i know one!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">this is a perfect fan to my eyes, i've never seen a laker fan have respect to another team!! wow! i've never seen a laker fan admit that the opponent played better.. at least i know one!</div> Aren't Kings fans always complaining? Your coach, Adolph Hitler Adelman, is constantly moaning and whining. But maybe you guys are right. Maybe I am just delusional. But before I give up, I will submit this to ya'll: The Pistons have made more free-throws than the Lakers have shot in this series! That is absurd! Anyways, go Lakers!
There has been a huge disperity in the amount of free throws taken by the Lakers and Pistons. The reason being, is the Lakers are reaching in and putting the Pistons into the bonus early in the quarters. The Pistons were in the bonus after just 1 minute and 50 seconds in the 4th quarter last night. The Lakers are not being aggressive enough early on and are playing ugly defense and basketball. There's always going to be missed calls in a game, but the Lakers should know to play through them and start doing the things on the court to get calls their way. Settling for jump shots or jumping into defenders (Derek Fisher) is not going to get you calls. Shaq needs to get it going on the glass. There is no excuse for his poor rebounding, if he was more aggressive you can guaranteed Ben Wallace would be getting a lot more over the back foul calls on him. The sad thing is when the Lakers are complaining to the ref, their man is sprinting down the court for an uncontested layup. Kobe is giving Prince, too easy of a time and more respect than he deserves on defense. In the overtime game Kobe took him to the rack on 4 straight plays. Kobe needs to get into that mode and stay in it all four quarters. He doesn't need to shoot each time, but driving and creating in the first half will get Shaq off, and get the shooters higher percentage shots. Then in the second half Kobe can be more selfish with the ball and close out the game. The Lakers are unbeatable when they attack the rim. They need to stop being lazy and start ramming the ball down the Wallace Twins face.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">There has been a huge disperity in the amount of free throws taken by the Lakers and Pistons. The reason being, is the Lakers are reaching in and putting the Pistons into the bonus early in the quarters. The Pistons were in the bonus after just 1 minute and 50 seconds in the 4th quarter last night. The Lakers are not being aggressive enough early on and are playing ugly defense and basketball. There's always going to be missed calls in a game, but the Lakers should know to play through them and start doing the things on the court to get calls their way. Settling for jump shots or jumping into defenders (Derek Fisher) is not going to get you calls. Shaq needs to get it going on the glass. There is no excuse for his poor rebounding, if he was more aggressive you can guaranteed Ben Wallace would be getting a lot more over the back foul calls on him. The sad thing is when the Lakers are complaining to the ref, their man is sprinting down the court for an uncontested layup. .......</div> Thank You. My grandmother taught me at a young age to take responsibility for my part in a situation, and MDE just doesnt seem to understand that, if the Lakers would have made just a couple more of their OPEN SHOTS and did a better job defensively, this series could be totally different. It's actually better for the Lakers because they can see what kind of effort they want to put behind the current roster (namely Shaq). Shaq's trying, but Ben is making him takes shots he doesn't want to. This is what I talked about earlier, about the fact that I believe Shaq could be better by adding more dimensions to his defense and shots.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Supersonic:</div><div class="quote_post">MDE - answer me this one question: In your eyes, who deserves to be ahead in this series?</div> The Lakers, and this is why: Game 1: Lakers in the penalty for the last 3:59 of the first quarter (last 239 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 8:30 of the second quarter (last 510 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 0:02 of the third quarter (last 2 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 5:11 of the fourth quarter (last 311 seconds of the quarter) Game 2: Lakers were never in the penalty in the first quarter Lakers in the penalty for the last 2:47 of the second quarter (last 167 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 9:17 of the third quarter (last 557 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 6:43 of the fourth quarter (last 403 seconds of the quarter) Game 3: Lakers in the penalty for the last 7:11 of the first quarter (last 431 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 9:56 of the second quarter (last 596 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 6:01 of the third quarter (last 361 seconds of the quarter) Lakers in the penalty for the last 10:15 of the fourth quarter (last 615 seconds of the quarter) The Lakers have been in the penalty for 4192 total seconds in this series For comparison, I looked up what it's been like for the Pistons: Game 1: Pistons in the penalty for the last 3:15 of the first quarter (last 195 seconds of the quarter) Pistons in the penalty for the last 6:52 of the second quarter (last 412 seconds of the quarter) Pistons were never in the penalty in the third quarter Pistons in the penalty for the last 7:13 of the fourth quarter (last 433 seconds of the quarter) Game 2: Pistons in the penalty for the last 6:50 of the first quarter (last 410 seconds of the quarter) Pistons in the penalty for the last 6:41 of the second quarter (last 401 seconds of the quarter) Pistons in the penalty for the last 3:00 of the third quarter (last 180 seconds of the quarter) Pistons were never in the penalty in the fourth quarter Game 3: Pistons were never in the penalty in the first quarter Pistons in the penalty for the last 1:42 of the second quarter (last 102 seconds of the quarter) Pistons were never in the penalty in of the third quarter Pistons in the penalty for the last 8:24 of the fourth quarter (last 504 seconds of the quarter) The Pistons have been in the penalty for 2637 total seconds in this series I figured, why not determine what percentage of the time have each of these teams been in the pentalty in this series, and here's what I found: 720 seconds per quarter x 4 quarters = 2880 seconds per game x 3 games = 8640 total seconds played in this series Lakers in the penalty 48.5% of the time Pistons in the penalty 30.5% of the time How are the Lakers supposed to play aggressive when they are in the penalty for half of the game?!
^ With the Lakers in the penalty, blame that on our players for their dismal lack of judgement, not the referees.
