The Media Is Racist

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  1. Bahir

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    Somebody needs to put a stop to these racism rants... You cant blaim everything that happends in the NBA on racism. A coach talking about switching teams is not racism, nor is Ron Artests rapping. The media attention they get depends on the situation. They are free to do what they wish. Sure, talking about switching teams in the middle of the playoffs is not a cool move, but it is in no way connected to racism, and neither is the publicity of it. Furthermore, you cant compare it to Ron Artests or anyone elses situation, because they have nothing to do with each other. The greater majority of the NBA players are black, and from a pure statistical standpoint there is a greater chanse of those guys being the center of the medias attention. Stop blaiming everything on racism and start to see things as they are.
     
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    No one has ever considered that *gasp* Larry Brown and all his whiteness, might have earned the respect from all of his years of service for people to understand that he might have to think about his future on his time?

    All Larry has tried to do is coach, and make sure he has future plans in tact (the man isn't healthy) But no, you'd rather just blame whitey and compare him to someone that punches fans.
     
  3. Custodianrules2

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    Good stuff, Mr. J.

    I think the media being racist is only a perception when it comes to basketball. It only seems racist because players are the focus of attention rather than the coaches, announcers or anybody else. And let's not forget Sheed/Artest had major attitude issues on and off the court, they were public embarassments at times and same with Kobe who embarassed himself by making a bad decision which damaged his character and golden boy image. Does all that seem pretty miniscule compared to Larry Brown rumors and speculation about him going off somewhere next season? It's not like Larry Brown was talking to the press about wanting to take time off to promote a CD like Artest did. It's not like Larry Brown before was out threatening referees, having affairs, or flagrant fouling players. You can argue it's the age difference, but it's mainly about the important guy that people focus on and that's the young basketball player, the guy who gets the big bucks, the "all eyes on me" guy.

    Now, I don't hear too much Kobe Bryant rape stuff since it appears to be old news now and I'm assuming it's going to be remembered and never forgotten just like Marv Albert dressing up in women's clothing and biting his girlfriend in the back during sex. The guy was into some kinky sh**, but it wasn't quite as serious as being accused of rape. Marv was slapped with a misdemenor assault and it was leaked that he likes to crossdress and he likes it rough. The guy was not only embarassed once, but twice when he had to take the mug shot with the hair piece off.

    Also, the majority of players in the NBA that are newsworthy (as in being famous or popular) probably aren't White and chances are if there's a Christian Laetner smoking pot or a Jason Williams cussing at fans, they aren't important enough figures to draw attention to compared to big names like Ron Artest, Rasheed Wallace or Kobe Bryant. Heck when Olowakandi got arrested for disorderly conduct, Zach Randolph got DUI, Jason Richardson hit his ex girlfriend, Clif Robinson got caught with weed, they either weren't good enough ball players, weren't famous enough yet, or they hadn't had a huge history of doing anything to get attention over DUI's, drugs, or woman beating. Jason Kidd's wife beating, however was a big deal because he was a high profile media target.

    Racism does exist, but crying "racism" when it's not the real issue at hand is like crying wolf.
     
  4. ROCK4LIFE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bahir:</div><div class="quote_post">Somebody needs to put a stop to these racism rants... You cant blaim everything that happends in the NBA on racism. A coach talking about switching teams is not racism, nor is Ron Artests rapping. The media attention they get depends on the situation. They are free to do what they wish. Sure, talking about switching teams in the middle of the playoffs is not a cool move, but it is in no way connected to racism, and neither is the publicity of it. Furthermore, you cant compare it to Ron Artests or anyone elses situation, because they have nothing to do with each other. The greater majority of the NBA players are black, and from a pure statistical standpoint there is a greater chanse of those guys being the center of the medias attention. Stop blaiming everything on racism and start to see things as they are.</div>
    If you read my thread. I didn't say that the NBA was racist. I stated the media was racist. To sum it up, what I'm saying to everyone is the media can easily single out a african american for the littlest thing, but when a white guy, who is loved my other white people does something terrible, he isn't singled out the same way. I don't see anybody going after Larry Brown's character. I dont see the media saying Larry Brown is being all about "ME". In other words, the margin of error for somebody like Larry Brown is much larger than a african american. Obcourse this ain't new, the media relationship with black men has been shaky for awhile. This is an example of how somebody that isn't of color, acts in a selfish way, and instead of pick apart his character, the media is sympathetic towards him (along with you guys). Now if the shoe was on the other foot, I don't think you would have that much sympathy.
     
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    Maybe you don't see that stuff because you don't look for it. ESPN.com had 2 anti-Brown articles, but they kind of lost their luster after Detroit won game 4. In fact, up until they won game 4, I didn't see anything positive towards Larry Brown in the media regarding the situation.
     
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    You know what's racist, why aren't there more asians and whites in the NBA? [​IMG]

    All jokes aside, I don't really think it's racist. Race is always brought up because the NBA is dominated by a minority (but not many asians [​IMG]). So, people are always looking for things that are wrong. However, I do think Brown seemed to get off a little too easily, because this is during the ECF, but the media probably has a lot more respect for him than Artest, blah blah, etc.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">If you read my thread. I didn't say that the NBA was racist. I stated the media was racist. To sum it up, what I'm saying to everyone is the media can easily single out a african american for the littlest thing, but when a white guy, who is loved my other white people does something terrible, he isn't singled out the same way. I don't see anybody going after Larry Brown's character. I dont see the media saying Larry Brown is being all about "ME". In other words, the margin of error for somebody like Larry Brown is much larger than a african american. Obcourse this ain't new, the media relationship with black men has been shaky for awhile. This is an example of how somebody that isn't of color, acts in a selfish way, and instead of pick apart his character, the media is sympathetic towards him (along with you guys). Now if the shoe was on the other foot, I don't think you would have that much sympathy.</div>


    Well first off he said that people need to stop blaming everything IN the NBA on rascism.

    Are you kidding me? Brown got so much crap for all this just look what Walton said. How is not being healthy enough to be a head coach selfish? Ron artest wanted to take time off and ditch his team to make a rap album that is selfish.

    The media IS making this a big deal. Consider how much press the Patriots got when Charlie Weiss signed with Notre Dame in the middle of the Patriots superbowl run. They didn't attack him or even Crennel who also was talking to other teams and he IS black.

    There is no rascism here, stop acting like it only goes one way. The NBA's majority is black for crying out loud but you don't see any of the white players complaining
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This NBA racism thing is getting out of hand. It seems like just about everyday I come here and I?m seeing a new thread on the NBA being racist and it really it?s getting annoying. I see nothing in the NBA that?s racist.</div>

    Hit it right on the head, the NBa is not racist. I repeat the NBA is not racist. The UNder 20 rule is not racist, the media is not racist the league is not racist. Quit it already.
     
  9. ROCK4LIFE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting S.Livingston14:</div><div class="quote_post">Hit it right on the head, the NBa is not racist. I repeat the NBA is not racist. The UNder 20 rule is not racist, the media is not racist the league is not racist. Quit it already.</div>
    I never said that NBA was racist. So that's irrelevant. As far as Larry Brown, regardless of his "so-called" health problems, he has no right to except another job while still currently coaching in the playoffs. That's unacceptable. I don't care WHO HE IS. The reason you people are sticking up for this guy is because he's "LARRY BROWN". Anybody else in the same situation you guys would shaking you're head. As far as why the NBA is majority black, because basketball is a sport played by majority BLACK people, not only on professional level, but on the playgrounds of the innercity. So yo can stop with the lame double standards.

    Racism DOES exist in the media. Not only in sports, but just in general. Certain people are given a free pass, while others get they're life ruined. I can give you plent of examples.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">I never said that NBA was racist. So that's irrelevant. As far as Larry Brown, regardless of his "so-called" health problems, he has no right to except another job while still currently coaching in the playoffs. That's unacceptable. I don't care WHO HE IS. The reason you people are sticking up for this guy is because he's "LARRY BROWN". Anybody else in the same situation you guys would shaking you're head. As far as why the NBA is majority black, because basketball is a sport played by majority BLACK people, not only on professional level, but on the playgrounds of the innercity. So yo can stop with the lame double standards.

    Racism DOES exist in the media. Not only in sports, but just in general. Certain people are given a free pass, while others get they're life ruined. I can give you plent of examples.</div>

    So doesn't the fact Larry Brown being white and not getting the 'heat' you think he deserves, and you complaining about it because he's white make you a racist?
     
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    If Larry Brown was black, do you think he would get the same treatment?
     
  12. ROCK4LIFE

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    SHAPE CITY: You're trying so hard to find a double standard that you're making yourself look foolish. C'mon, let's be adults about the situation please.
     
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    I hate to see threads like this, nothing positive comes out of them. NBA is a diverse league, thinking like this doesnt make it fun to watch or follow [​IMG]
     
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    Read this article:


    PLEASE DO NOT POST ARTICLES WITHOUT A SOURCE - 44Thrilla

    This an example of the Racism that you people don't think exist
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">Read this article:
    This an example of the Racism that you people don't think exist</div>

    Why must you see race primary? Why can't you see those people as equals?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Green Packers</div>
    [​IMG] I'm sorry I could care less about the story. Let's face it folks, he said Green Packers.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yet Kevin Greene, a Caucasian player of the Carolina Panthers, attacked his coach and this attack was even caught on tape. Did you know that and did you see the tape?</div>

    I doubt we would have heard about this if he was black too, he is a no name player, who stays under the radar. Also Mark Chumara never gets any pub or none of that so he doesnt make the news. Say David Beckham rapes somebody, or Randy Johnson beats down Joe Torre, then they will make the news, not some small-name football players.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">SHAPE CITY: You're trying so hard to find a double standard that you're making yourself look foolish. C'mon, let's be adults about the situation please.</div>

    I didn't have to try hard, you did a good job of creating your own double standard.

    Does racism exist in the media? YES of course there are racist writers, journalists, analysts etc.

    Does it mean the ENTIRE media is racist? Absolutely not.

    Do you think there is a conspiracy to taint the image of black athletes and protect the image of white athletes?

    For every one negative article there are probably 20 articles giving accolades to black athletes.

    These media outlets are only concerned with one color GREEN, as in the GREEN of the almighty dollar. What sells the most? A nice positive story, or a tabloid piece on a player?

    That article you posted is completely biased. Mark Chumara was kicked out of the NFL, disowned by the Green Bay Packers, disowned by his best friend Brett Favre, and ripped by the media.

    How come that article doesn't use Rob Dibble beating up Lou Pinella as an example instead? That got plenty of 'media' attention and still does.

    How about John Rocker? The 'media' destroyed his career after his idiotic remarks and actions.

    How about Pete Rose?

    There are plenty of examples of all athletes being portrayed negatively.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't have to try hard, you did a good job of creating your own double standard.

    Does racism exist in the media? YES of course there are racist writers, journalists, analysts etc.

    Does it mean the ENTIRE media is racist? Absolutely not.

    Do you think there is a conspiracy to taint the image of black athletes and protect the image of white athletes?

    For every one negative article there are probably 20 articles giving accolades to black athletes.

    These media outlets are only concerned with one color GREEN, as in the GREEN of the almighty dollar. What sells the most? A nice positive story, or a tabloid piece on a player?

    That article you posted is completely biased. Mark Chumara was kicked out of the NFL, disowned by the Green Bay Packers, disowned by his best friend Brett Favre, and ripped by the media.

    How come that article doesn't use Rob Dibble beating up Lou Pinella as an example instead? That got plenty of 'media' attention and still does.

    How about John Rocker? The 'media' destroyed his career after his idiotic remarks and actions.

    How about Pete Rose?

    There are plenty of examples of all athletes being portrayed negatively.</div>
    I'm sure you'll have a pointless comeback to every point I make. Let me ask you this, did the media blame a whole generation of people when John Rocker made his terrible comments? Does anybody mention anything about a generation of "THUGS" when you see hockey players punching fans? Do they keep showing one of those many hockey brawls over and over on ESPN like they did Detroit and Indiana? No. I had to see Jermaine O'Neil punch that fan atleast 100 times. My point, the media wants people to percieve the "HIP HOP" generation as "THUGS" and "GANGSTAZ". By magnifying everything black athletes do, the focus is almost always on them. Whether it be something they said, did, or anything. Hockey or Baseball players don't recieve near the attention black NBA players get from the media ( except for Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa). Larry Brown betray his team, and nor the media or you guys are questioning his character. How is that? I thought is was wrong to accept a job from another team while committed to another? Oh I get it, since he's unhealthy he can get away with it.
     
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    Did the cavs get any fine upon them for talking to Brown? no, exactly, that means taht the pistons had to grant permission to other organizations of the league the right to talk to Larry Brown. Who by the way, is a very well respected man in the world of basketball, regardless of race. So whether you, the media or anyone else thinks he "betrayed his team" doesn't matter because obviously HIS TEAM DOESN'T. I mean sure, theres racism everywhere, but its not in every article, or ever person's mind. Just don't focus on what the media is trying to feed you. take everything with a pinch of salt.
     
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    I haven't had time to read through all these posts, but I did enjoy a good laugh at the title.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rockfan06:</div><div class="quote_post">Does anybody mention anything about a generation of "THUGS" when you see hockey players punching fans? Do they keep showing one of those many hockey brawls over and over on ESPN like they did Detroit and Indiana? No. I had to see Jermaine O'Neil punch that fan atleast 100 times. My point, the media wants people to percieve the "HIP HOP" generation as "THUGS" and "GANGSTAZ". By magnifying everything black athletes do, the focus is almost always on them. Whether it be something they said, did, or anything. Hockey or Baseball players don't recieve near the attention black NBA players get from the media ( except for Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa). Larry Brown betray his team, and nor the media or you guys are questioning his character. How is that? I thought is was wrong to accept a job from another team while committed to another? Oh I get it, since he's unhealthy he can get away with it.</div>

    When are hockey players punching fans? The worst thing that has happened in hockey in the last few years was when Todd Bertuzzi hit Steve Moore, and that received very much media scrutiny. I just did a quick search on "Todd Bertuzzi thug" as well, and you know how many results I got? 1,790. So I don't know why you feel nobody has ever called hockey players derogatory names. I mean, if you want to talk about hockey, how about the fact that they gave Todd Bertuzzi's illegal hit twenty times more attention than the Stanley Cup. Maybe, just maybe, black players <u>do</u> get more negative attention for the things they do, or maybe you're just completely blind to the facts. I mean, do you honestly feel like Brian Cardinal wouldn't have gotten the same amount of media coverage (if not more) if he knocked out an innocent fan on the floor? I also don't know why you feel Bonds and Sosa are the only MLB players who get negative media attention. To suggest that takes away a lot of your credibility. By the way, did you ever realize that there may be black members of the media? Do they hate themselves?

    Maybe it's just me, but this whole thread reeks of racism against non-blacks.
     

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