The Milwaukee Bucks are shopping Drew Gooden...

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  1. KeepOnRollin

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    With the new CBA, teams under the cap "bid" on Amnestied players. So in this imaginary scenario there is next to no chance the Heat would get them as they are over the cap and not allowed to be bidders.
     
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    They won't bid on him if he doesn't want to play for them. That's what happened with Elton Brand.
     
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    Brand was bid on.
     
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    I think you are confused. DAL had the cap room to bid on Brand and they did. Just like Scola and a few others were won by teams with cap room. MIA has no chance at amnestied players for at least the next few years due to their cap space (or lack there-of).
     
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    There were teams with cap space that refused to bid on Brand because he said he wouldn't sign with them. He wanted to go to Dallas.
     
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    It wasn't his choice to "sign" with them or not. Unless he wanted to sit out the whole season and forfeit his money. Billups said the same. Didn't stop Clipper from nabbing him.
     
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    The teams saw what happened with Billups and chose not to bid on Brand.

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/11/elton-brand-hoping-to-be-claimed-by-mavericks/

    League sources indicated that at least three teams with room, the Cavaliers, Bucks and Raptors, would not be making bids on Brand. The Suns and Hornets were contemplating making a bid, according to other league sources. But teams are leery of making bids if Brand doesn’t want to play there. The Clippers had to do some fence-mending with guard Chauncey Billups after they claimed him off of waivers for a little more than $2 million last December, following his amnesty by the Knicks. Billups had wanted to clear amnesty waivers and sign with the Heat.
     
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    I gizoogled him and he turned into Drew Phaten.
     
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    There is no signing with amnesty bids. A team wins the bid on a player they are that teams player just like a team can trade a player whereever they want if he doesnt have a no trade clause. The player may not be happy about it and if that player isnt happy about it then he can always pull a carson palmer.

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    Hmmm, teams are leery if he doesn't want to play there, and you saying Brand said he won't sign are two different things.
     
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    Just like a team could have traded for DHoward and watched him walk if he didn't re-sign.
     
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    Extremely different. Trade all of your assets for a 1 year rental of Howard. Bid on a guy who refuses to play. yeah, same thing.
     
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    From the same article

    Teams that are eligible have to submit minimum bids of $1.35 million, the minimum salary for a veteran like Brand with more than 10 years’ experience. Since he only has one year left on his contract he only can get the minimum for one year. Teams can create additional cap room if they’re interested in bidding by waiving non-guaranteed players on their roster, but can’t trade players to create the room. The winning bid will be subtracted from the $18.1 million the 76ers still owe Brand; the Sixers will pay the balance of what’s left. But they can spread their payments to Brand out over three years.
     
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    Have no idea why that's relevant, or how.
     
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    Billups was re-signed by the Clippers. Brand likely wants to be signed by Dallas.

    Clear yet?
     
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    Initially, billups did not want anyone to bid on him. He wanted to choose where he went. Clippers bid anyways. Brand had one year left. If he really wanted Dallas, and someone else bid, he'd have two options. Suck it up and take the money someone bid for his services for one year, or sit out the entire year, forfeit the money, and THEN sign with Dallas. Clear?
     
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    Would you guys trade Luke Babbitt, Nolan Smith, Joel Freeland for Drew Gooden? Works on the trade checker.
     
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    Wouldnt trade anything for gooden. Hurts capspace for this summer and it seems like this team will be content with missing the playoffs this year.

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