The Most Underrated Player Award Goes to......

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  1. pacers#1

    pacers#1 JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "vinsanity03":</div><div class="quote_post">ron isnt underatted anymore, i think Gilbert Arenas, Matt Harpring, Ricky Davis are very underatted any they improved so much.</div>

    Hes still underrated. The only reason pple talk about him is bcuz of his temper.
     
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    Marion
    Mashburn
    Troy Hudson
    Troy Murphy
    Harpring
     
  3. Pacers Fan

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gilbert Arenas
    He is so damn great,he has great stats and his moves are awesome.
    He won Rookie MVP award but he is still underrated.
    Mike Bibby and Andre Miller are both considered one of the best PG's in the NBA but Gilbert is better than them

    Here is head to head comparasion

    Gilbert Arenas

    PPG 17.8
    RPG 5.0
    APG 6.4
    SPG 1.59
    BPG .23
    FG% .438
    FT% .784
    3P% .343
    MPG 34.5

    Mike Bibby

    PPG 16.3
    RPG 2.9
    APG 5.4
    SPG 1.19
    BPG .14
    FG% .458
    FT% .809
    3P% .406
    MPG 34.6

    Andre Miller

    PPG 14.3
    RPG 3.9
    APG 7.0
    SPG 1.27
    BPG .14
    FG% .407
    FT% .805
    3P% .212
    MPG 37.7


    Gilbert is better in almost every stat category and his game looks nice,he can dunk,he has great moves and he is younger than both of them

    Gilbert is only 21,Bibby is 25 and Miller is 26.

    Gilbert is taller than both of them,he is stronger,he can play PG and SG.
    He is younger and his dunks are very good.
    Arenas is better than them and they are getting a lot more attention.


    Another underrated Warrior is Troy Murphy.
    He could also get most improved player award becuase his numbers are very good and his defense is great.


    Here are 2 opponents


    Ricky Davis

    2001/2002 season

    PPG 11.7
    RPG 3.00
    APG 2.2
    SPG .84
    BPG 28

    2002/2003 season

    PPG 20.8
    RPG 4.70
    APG 4.9
    SPG 1.65
    BPG .36


    Matt Harpring

    2001/2002 season

    PPG 11.8
    RPG 7.10
    APG 1.3
    SPG .86
    BPG .06

    2002/2003 season

    PPG 17.8
    RPG 6.80
    APG 1.7
    SPG 1.09
    BPG .26


    They are good but Troy improved big time also

    Troy Murphy

    2001/2002 season

    PPG 5.6
    RPG 3.60
    APG .8
    SPG .44
    BPG .26


    2002/2003 season

    PPG 11.9
    RPG 11.3
    APG 1.3
    SPG .90
    BPG .34 </div>

    stats aren't everything. ya know Darko Milicic from uhhhhhhh that place. he gets like 12/6/4 a game and is projected #2. Mike Bibby doesn't average many assists but is a great passer and leader. Bibby GP Dre are all better than Gilbert cuz they have experience. Jalen Rose, Spreewell, they both suck but get good stats

    most underrated is Ron Artest Brad Miller Jon Bender or Elton Brand
     
  4. vinsanity03

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "pacers#1":</div><div class="quote_post"><div class="quote_poster">Quoting "vinsanity03":</div><div class="quote_post">ron isnt underatted anymore, i think Gilbert Arenas, Matt Harpring, Ricky Davis are very underatted any they improved so much.</div>

    Hes still underrated. The only reason pple talk about him is bcuz of his temper.</div>

    people talk about him because of his tight defense, the news talks about him because of his temper
     
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    how is arenas underrated? he won most improved and was touted all season as a big free agent, how is that underrated? most underrated are the guys who come out and do a job each night that doesn't get noticed like ur t-macs and kobes, ppl like brent barry, matty harpring, kurt thomas etc

    as for underrated stars (ppl who get recognition but not as much as they deserve), i agree that mash tops that list
     
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    [​IMG]

    This is like a 6 month old Topic.
     
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    Eric Snow is very underrated. He is a great defender and a triple double threat everytime he steps on the court.
     
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    Triple Double threat? I don't know about that. He had 1 all of last year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting vinsanity03:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike Bibby is overratted, he has an all star team to pass the ball to, theres no reason why he shouldnt average 12 apg.</div>

    bibby avg'd 18 and 8 when he played for the grizz...sac town run their offence through their big men, so his assits are down, and hes the third scoring option so his scoring is down

    and btw...he avg'd 16ppg this past season
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J Tins11 JO7:</div><div class="quote_post">

    most underrated is Ron Artest Brad Miller Jon Bender or Elton Brand</div>

    [​IMG] talk about a homer. Brand gets plenty of attention. Miller made the all star team and Artest is only underrated whne it comes to his scoring. Ill defnly agree with u on Bender though he has more skillz than kenyon martin but doesnt get the playing time
     
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    Elton Brand is kind of underrated. You hear more talk about Kenyon Martin then Elton Brand and Brand is a much better player, offensively and he's right there defensively, and is a much better rebounder. Playing for some of the crappiest teams in the league hasn't helped him either.
     
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    ron artest, elton brand, sam cassell, eric snow,jamal mashburn.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting STCBBall3:</div><div class="quote_post">Elton Brand is kind of underrated. You hear more talk about Kenyon Martin then Elton Brand and Brand is a much better player, offensively and he's right there defensively, and is a much better rebounder. Playing for some of the crappiest teams in the league hasn't helped him either.</div>


    very true
     
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    Kenyon Martin is one of the most underrated players in the history of the NBA....what a player
     
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    olskoolfunktitude JBB The Pig Pirate

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    i really dont think masburn is underrated. hes a great scorer with decent all around numbers but this yea was the first time he played 80 games in a season since 1995!!!! hes games played since then read
    18
    69
    48
    24
    76
    76
    40.

    its not too dissimlar to vince carter. u can have more talent than anyone in the league but if u dont play EVERY game ecxept maybe a few during the year it just doesnt matter cause you cant helo your team when your not in the game
     
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    Mash is underrated because he puts up 21,5 and 5..yet no one EVER talks highly of him..not many players can put up great allround stats like that
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Mash is underrated because he puts up 21,5 and 5..yet no one EVER talks highly of him..not many players can put up great allround stats like that</div>
    i dontr think mash is underrated and i dont think he is overrated. fans still gave him enough recognition to be on the allstar team and the media also put him on mock lineups. he gets enough respect and he doesnt get too much either.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Kenyon Martin is one of the most overrrated players in the history of the NBA....</div>

    thats a great point agree.


    mash gets plenty of recognition for what he does. he is great player. WHEN he plays but he cant be that underrated because he nevevr plays enough games in a season to show everyone why they should think hes so good.
     
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    Olskool...you put 3 r's instead of just 2 :mrgreen: as for mash...what people really talk about him or think highly of him? the media never seem to..
     
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    sure they do. hes not in every highlight like tmac or something but when your team is going against the hornets in the advertising they say it as your team going up against "Jamal Mashburn and the Hornets". I think he still gets more recognition than baron davis
     

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