Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? ^I saw Marion on Josh alot more than on Dirk..just like in last years playoffs, I saw Marion on Josh more than Dirk.
Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Apr 3 2007, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Speaking of Marion, he's 6'7, quick, and versatile, offensively and defensively. But I think he has a hard time dealing with quick PGs on the defensive end. For example, Marion was assigned to guard Gilbert Arenas a good portion at the end of the game against Washington back in December (Arenas had his way with Phoenix that night, dropping 54). Overall, Marion is a good defender that can guard probably 4 spots, but he most likely can't deal with young, quick PGs.</div>Marion was assigned to Arenas in OT of that game where Gil pretty much lived in the perimeter. He knew that Marion was faster and strongter than him and he also knew that he was on fire from the perimeter. As someone else said Marion later bothered Gilbert alot in Washington. Also Marvinmartin, from what I saw in the game Marion was on Dirk most of the game and doing a great job bothering him on his jumpers. Not to mention that Marion was on Dirk in the late stages during the "game of the year" Suns-Mavericks matchup when the Suns climbed back into the game and took it into OT.
Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Apr 4 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marion was assigned to Arenas in OT of that game where Gil pretty much lived in the perimeter. He knew that Marion was faster and strongter than him and he also knew that he was on fire from the perimeter. As someone else said Marion later bothered Gilbert alot in Washington.</div>Shawn Marion isn't faster than Gilbert Arenas. Defensively, yes. But, with the ball in hands, hell no. Gilbert shot 45% in the next meeting against the Suns with Marion on him nearly the entire game (it was a blowout, I was at the game). Gil attempted 12 3pters against Phoenix the first meeting, making half of them. He attempted 25 2pters and made 15 of them. He took it Marion as well, an example was when he got the AND1 at the end of the 4th to even send the game in OT.
Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Apr 4 2007, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shawn Marion isn't faster than Gilbert Arenas. Defensively, yes.</div>We're talking about Marion's defense...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Gilbert shot 45% in the next meeting against the Suns with Marion on him nearly the entire game (it was a blowout, I was at the game).</div>He was 3-9 from three point land where Marion was more focused becuase of what happened last game. I also remember that Marion spent time on Antawn as well that game during the times that Raja Bell was on Gil, and Antawn shot 2-8.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He took it Marion as well, an example was when he got the AND1 at the end of the 4th to even send the game in OT.</div>That was a miracle shot, it was a hook and the foul while he was flying out of bounds. It was very lucky that it went in I actually thought that the game was over at that point.
Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We're talking about Marion's defense...</div>I know.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He was 3-9 from three point land where Marion was more focused becuase of what happened last game. I also remember that Marion spent time on Antawn as well that game during the times that Raja Bell was on Gil, and Antawn shot 2-8.</div>The point is that even the second time they played against Phoenix, Gil shot an efficent 45% from the field, including the 9 3pters. 33% from the 3pt line isn't that bad, but some of those 3pters he took were questionable. Raja Bell was on Gil the 1st time, too. DeShawn was being played by Nash. Yeah, Antawn was pretty bad offensively against Phoenix both meetings they played.. Marion did give him trouble.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That was a miracle shot, it was a hook and the foul while he was flying out of bounds. It was very lucky that it went in I actually thought that the game was over at that point.</div>A miracle shot is what Mo Pete did to us. Gilbert's attempted layup to send the game into OT just had a high arc because of the contact Marion made with him on his way to the basket. How could you think the game would be over when we're only down by 3 points? Gilbert was feeling it that night, so you'd have to have some sort of hope that he'd save the day.
Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Apr 4 2007, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know.</div>Then why would you bring up offensive quickness.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The point is that even the second time they played against Phoenix, Gil shot an efficent 45% from the field, including the 9 3pters. 33% from the 3pt line isn't that bad, but some of those 3pters he took were questionable. Raja Bell was on Gil the 1st time, too. DeShawn was being played by Nash. Yeah, Antawn was pretty bad offensively against Phoenix both meetings they played.. Marion did give him trouble.</div>Raja Bell has trouble defending Gilbert due to Gil's mix of strength and speed. Once Marion was on him it forced Gil out to the perimeter in the OT period, however Gil was feeling it that night. I don't think Gilbert is not the greatest example for Shawn Marion shutting down smaller and quicker guards. BTW, 33% is really nothing to be proud of, even if it is from three land.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>A miracle shot is what Mo Pete did to us. Gilbert's attempted layup to send the game into OT just had a high arc because of the contact Marion made with him on his way to the basket. How could you think the game would be over when we're only down by 3 points? Gilbert was feeling it that night, so you'd have to have some sort of hope that he'd save the day.</div>That wasn't a layup, it was a one handed floater-ish shot from in the paint. I just watched it over to make sure I wasn't imagining anything. Also, this was the pre-arenas buzzer beaters era whent he Wizards were possibely the least clutch team in the NBA. We dropped close game after close game after close game and this was against the suns.
Re: The NBA's most versatile defender? Shane Battier is my pick. He can't guard centers but everywhere else he could guard.
