<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You want to see a list of complete busters that were consensus top 10 picks? It's endless. That means absolutely nothing. The reason it's frustrating isn't that you disagree. It's that all you are doing is regurgitating what you've heard. And more importantly, you still haven't explained why you'd settle for a backup guard that's going to play about 16 minutes per game behind Harris and Carter? What's the point of that with the 10th pick???? Harris is going to be here a long time. And Carter's not going anywhere. How about we get a starter with the 10th pick? You're using flawed logic, like just saying "well, he's the probably the next Monta Ellis!" Okay, then I'll just say that Joe Alexander may be the next Jerry West and DeAndre Jordan is the next Kevin Garnett. How about basing your opinions on the numbers they've put up, instead of just spewing names. Bottom line, we'll just have to wait and see. Good news is, it looks like he'll be gone by the 10th pick, so some other team will regret having him and not the Nets.</div> You are making a very flawed assumption that KC hasn't watched Westbrook play a lot. While I don't share in the Westbrook love either, I do know that KC is making his assessment based upon what he has seen, not what he has read. </div> okay, I hear ya, I can tell you I live in LA and watched just about all of UCLA's games, and a couple in person. He had a good game against Memphis and I think a lot of people choose to remember that game more than others.
i never base anything off of numbers, that's just silly. if you do that, you've already failed. PAT CALATHES FOR TOP 10!
Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....</div> There are significant benefits to having a lockdown perimeter defender with length and athleticism.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....</div> There are significant benefits to having a lockdown perimeter defender with length and athleticism. </div> Maybe you're Wright. Maybe you're Wrong. (Wasn't that clever?! yes yes I tried very hard)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....</div> There are significant benefits to having a lockdown perimeter defender with length and athleticism. </div> Yes there are, but not with a tenth pick. There are several of those players available as free agents.
Good question: How come everyone talks about potential when dealing with big men, but completely ignores the idea with guards?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....</div> There are significant benefits to having a lockdown perimeter defender with length and athleticism. </div> Yes there are, but not with a tenth pick. There are several of those players available as free agents. </div> Look at this draft. Getting someone at 10 that can play a significant role of the bench is a good thing. The majority of this draft (after the top 5 or 6 guys) is gambling on upside (i.e. expect nothing for two seasons) or getting a 5/6/7th man for the rotation.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 20 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....</div> There are significant benefits to having a lockdown perimeter defender with length and athleticism. </div> Maybe you're Wright. Maybe you're Wrong. (Wasn't that clever?! yes yes I tried very hard) </div> Great, now I have a Billy Joel song stuck in my head. I may be crazy, but Wright wasn't the shooter we were looking for.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 20 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jun 20 2008, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Still have not heard an explanation why the Nets should draft a questionable shooter/backup combo guard with the 10th pick, when their two biggest needs are a low post scorer and knockdown shooters....</div> There are significant benefits to having a lockdown perimeter defender with length and athleticism. </div> Maybe you're Wright. Maybe you're Wrong. (Wasn't that clever?! yes yes I tried very hard) </div> Great, now I have a Billy Joel song stuck in my head. I may be crazy, but Wright wasn't the shooter we were looking for. </div> Haha That's the thing though - if Wright, who we loved for defense, length and athleticism wasn't good enough for us, why would Westbrook be, if he shares the skill set?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 20 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's the thing though - if Wright, who we loved for defense, length and athleticism wasn't good enough for us, why would Westbrook be, if he shares the skill set?</div> 1) Wright was drafted to be a shooter, not an off the bench defender. 2) Wright has no killer instinct 3) Westbrook has an infectious excitement about him that feeds energy to other players on his team. 4) Westbrook has a better handle than Wright
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 20 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 20 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's the thing though - if Wright, who we loved for defense, length and athleticism wasn't good enough for us, why would Westbrook be, if he shares the skill set?</div> 1) Wright was drafted to be a shooter, not an off the bench defender. 2) Wright has no killer instinct 3) Westbrook has an infectious excitement about him that feeds energy to other players on his team. 4) Westbrook has a better handle than Wright </div> Interesting Hollinger article on the wingmen and guards in the draft: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/i...aftRater-080622 Notice that Westbrook grades out in the "Riff Raff" category, as does Gordon. Also notice how picking Antoine Wright in '05 was clearly a mistake if this system was used. He should not have even been a first rounder. I do realize that his system has flaws, but it's an interesting read.
