OT The new foul rules

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  1. riverman

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    Dame got mugged in the paint last game...you could hear the contact...it was pretty blatant, other than that I like the way games have been called and that it's not as ticky tac with guys jumping into defenders and flopping.
     
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    Yes. This makes the most sense to me as well. There is a lot more contact, and it's going to make normal sized players far less effective.
     
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    Guards are getting screwed. If Nurkic weren't so finesse around the rim he'd be far better off.
     
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    Lol to the small ball then. Wonder if Olshe knew that when he was building dwarfs team.
     
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    I don't think this will last. I think there will be new guidance issued to referees to try to correct their overcompensation.
     
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    Last year it seems a couple times a game Dame would try to through up a wild shot from outside the arc then get frustrated when the foul was not called. I am glad these type of plays are no longer happening.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    The "not rewarding flopping" is what the rules are intended to address. That's not what I meant. What I meant is that actual contact by the defense (not fake contact that the offensive player creates) is now being not called for fouls, which wasn't the intent of the rules. That part, I believe, will get fixed.
     
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    The refs aren't following the new rules. The new rules are simply too nuanced for the refs so they're just blowing their whistles less. They're allowing guys to be hacked in the lane and slapped at during jumpers and in fact if the player isn't flailing around in nonbasketball movements the refs just aren't calling shit. Sure it's resulting in less fouls and a game that people who love to foul like Draymond like to watch more but if a defender disrupts a shot using contact with a scorer's body... that should be a fucking foul unless the scorer is making a nonbasketball move to cause the contact.
     
  10. illmatic99

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    otoh, his foul rate is at a career low
     
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    I hope it does get fixed because it's a hackfest right now and less adept defensive minded players are loving it. They just get to slap at the ball and if they get someone's arm they still get the stop or they just get to body check someone driving through the lane and grab a dislodged ball for another stop.
     
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    that's a pretty stupid comment...or at least it leaves out so much context it's worthless....which is close enough to stupid to count as such....IMO

    first off, Dame was 9th in FTA last season (while being 7th in minutes); and he was 8th in FTA the season before (while being 1st in minutes). So no, he doesn't rely on FT's the most

    secondly, do the new foul rules mean players don't commit fouls? Do they mean officials are perfectly interpreting the new rules? Why is it that the smaller, quicker players seem to be those most 'harmed' by the new rules?

    when those new rules were being analyzed I saw dozens of examples of the kind motion & action that was targeted. I don't recall Dame being used an example one time
     
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    agree, and I think the refs are/will adjust their calls on the guards going to the hoop as the season goes on. The game to me anyway sure seems more physical.
     
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    Hmm. What team invented modern smallball? The Warriors, wasn't it? Let's check in to see how they're struggling...
     
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    You sure they got three 6.3 ballhogs in S5? Idk...
     
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    their 3 championship teams and this season:

    Harrison Barnes 6-8
    Draymond Green 6-6
    Justin Holiday 6-6
    Andre Iguodala 6-6
    Shaun Livingston 6-7
    Brandon Rush 6-6
    Klay Thompson 6-6

    Matt Barnes 6-7
    Kevin Durant 6-10
    Draymond Green 6-6
    Andre Iguodala 6-6
    Shaun Livingston 6-7
    Klay Thompson 6-6

    Omri Casspi 6-9
    Kevin Durant 6-10
    Draymond Green 6-6
    Andre Iguodala 6-6
    Shaun Livingston 6-7
    Patrick McCaw 6-7
    Klay Thompson 6-6
    Nick Young 6-7

    Jordan Poole 6-4
    Andrew Wiggins 6-7
    Draymond Green 6-6
    Juan Toscano-Anderson 6-6
    Otto Porter 6-8
    Andre Iguodala 6-6
    Moses Moody 6-6
    Damion Lee 6-5
    Jonathan Kuminga 6-8
    (Klay Thompson) 6-6

    let's not forget it all started when the Warriors picked one of Curry/Monta Eliis and traded the other
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Warriors "small ball" means downsizing the big men to the 6'7''-6'8'' range, not playing three midgets. Curry is the only actually small (for basketball) player and he plays a position where smaller players are common.
     
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    What is the total difference
    You, sir, have too much time on your hands.


    How much taller than Monta is current starter Jordan Poole?
     
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    So instead of an undersized small forward they have an undersized center. That makes ALL the difference.
     

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