Zombie The Next Siakam? Don't Sleep On Zach Collins.

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  1. BonesJones

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    Good assessment.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I might need to script more videos because that's by far the smoothest and best recording I've had.
     
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    $$$. If the Refs let him play than yes. It's possible.
     
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    I was excited when we drafted him, but his foul trouble and average offense at best can be frustrated sometimes, it's definetly time to give him the starting spot at PF, his ceiling is high, the only question is can he reach it ? Hopefully
     
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    Average offense at best? He had above average effeciency last year on average shot volume. Dont see how hes simply average at best, maybe average in general. But then again, so was Siakam in his 2nd year.
     
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    I’ll eat my shoe if Collins is Siakam 2.0
     
  8. BonesJones

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    Did you watch the video at all?
     
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    Yes, a very smooth presentation.

    I really liked, and appreciated the on screen stats comparison graphics during the first half of the video.

    A suggestion.
    During the second half, you mention comparison stats, but do not include the graphics. It was much more difficult for my old slow brain to follow, and comprehend without the graphics.
     
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    Agreed. I was on a time crunch though so I wanted to get it out.
     
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    I havent watched the video yet, (I will). I dont really see the comparison in how they play though. Siakam’s kind of a long rangey defender thats effective at getting steals and being in passing lanes, collins is a good help defender and makes really good reads and just knows where to be on a basketball court. I also dont think there very similar athletes in how they move. Siakam moves like a 3-4 tweener forward type. Zach moves much more like a Kevin Garnett / Tim Duncan type, 4/5. I guess its all just my opinion.

    Also like I said havent watched the video yet, but I will. If were just strictly talking that Zach “could” make a big jump in production this year like Siakam did, I am still largely undecided on Zach, theres a lot of question marks, but I think he has potential and its definitely possible.
     
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    Another who hasn't watched the video(sorry, not a big video watcher, but maybe I'll give it a go here in a bit), so maybe it was touched upon, but another big thing to take into consideration is their respective ages, Pascal was 23.5 entering his second year, Collins didn't turn 21 until a month or so into the season. For it to be comparable is good. I'm sure someone could find counter arguments to it as well, but the situations are similar, a 3rd year player on the verge of a much bigger role.
     
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    Give it a go, its only 7 minutes and it's my video:bgrin:

    I did address these things! It's pretty in-depth!
     
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    I address all that! I look at factors that go into a big 3rd year leap with Siakam as an example and apply them to Collins.

    I wish people would just watch the video first! I tried to look at the whole picture!
     
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    Until frontier fixes the line to my house the only internet access I have is through my phone and I get terrible reception out here, even s2 takes a while to load.

    That said, I will watch it eventually.

    I have heard a lot of arguments before though about Collins and Siakam.
     
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    Your phone called me 3 times today and I could hear you driving but you obviously weren't calling.
     
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    Great job man. I hope you are right!
     
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    Thats hilarious. @dviss1 has done that to me a few times too. Cracks me up. Lol.
     
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    Really...? lol. Sorry about that.
     
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    No because the premise is inherently flawed, in my opinion.

    Just like if someone titled a video, “The next Michael Jordan? Don’t sleep on Anfernee Simons.” — wouldn’t watch it.
     
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