Zombie The Next Siakam? Don't Sleep On Zach Collins.

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  1. Wizard Mentor

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    Loved this....

    Swapping Hood for one of Maurice Harkless and Al-Farouq Aminu -- 7-of-30 combined from deep in this series -- has upped Portland's shooting quotient without compromising its defense. Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum, dealing with traps at every turn, have more space to breathe with Hood on the floor. He has punished Denver for creeping away to help on Portland's central pick-and-roll action:
     
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    I'm watching Miami vs Phoenix, Bam Adebayo is so freaking good, he does everything for the heat. It makes me sad the we drafted a guy who is to weak to grab the ball and not Bam
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    I was gonna make a thread and title it "WHAT THE FUCK DOES ZACH COLLINS DO????
    Make a friggin play for crissakes. He does nothing impactful. Ever. Nothing.
    Yet????...
     
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    Zach has been terrible. Fouls a lot. Turns ball over and misses many bunnies. Most disappointed in him
     
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    I've never been a fan of Collins. I don't think he'll amount to much. He fouls way too much and hasn't shown any signs of learning not to, so I'm not sure he'll ever actually be a good defender. Hope he proves me wrong!
     
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    Let's be easy on Collins. This was only his 8th game as a starter this season and he's been thrown into the deep end of the pool for what have been playoff games for us.

    He shot 60% from the field today and 50% from 3. He grabbed 7 rebounds. He only committed 3 fouls and 1 turnover. And he was a team high +8.
     
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    Really the only bad shooting game was the first one against Memphis. He averaging about 1.5 turnovers a game. His defense was solid today on defense. His scoring and rebound average is up from prior season. But remember he only taking around 5-6 shots a game. I getting believe some of you guys just don't like him so doesn't matter what he does on the floor you will still have negative comments about him.
     
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    PLEASE WELCOME TO THE STAGE, THE REPLACEMENT SCAPEGOAT FOR MEYERS LEONARRRRRD!

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    Collins is the fifth option aNd the youngest man on the starter squad....
     
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    I'll eat your other shoe and it would be worth it!
     
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    Nice video it moved along well and presented the case.

    I just don't agree with it. Totally different players in my opinion. Zach will be defensively less effective but more effective as a perimeter shooter.

    Now the overall premise that he could take a 3rd year jump i agree with. Even hope for. He did not get his third year this year. His fourth will be his third. One good thing is he will hopefully again get some playoff experience though i doubt it will be more than 5-6 games this year. The Bubble experience might help Zack get some experience also.
     
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    not sure how you arrived at Zach becoming a better shooter? Sure, it's possible but Siakam is shooting 36.2% this year on three's while averaging 6 attempts a game. That's decent. More than that though is closing out on Siakam will be a lot more risky than closing out on Zach because Siakam has great dribble-drive ability. That's going to leave him more shooting space.

    I think the Siakam comp was kind of loopy. Siakam has all-star talent & impact. So far, Zach has shown Mo Harkless impact and a game more like Jason Smith or a poor man's Keith Van Horn than Siakam
     
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    As long he plays with Dame and CJ and Nurk he will be always be 4 or 5 option on offense. The opportunity will not be there for a lot big offense night. His niche has to be on the defense end and the boards. I believe that's his role will be in the future for this team. Trying to compare him to other young bigs in this league not fair to him due to a lot of them is 2 or 3rd option on there team so the opportunity to score are higher for them. But majority of them if they was on our team might not be as successful on offense as they are on the team there playing for. But majority of them might score a lot but they play no defense.
     
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    From what i see (remember i said In my opinion) Zack has a better shot and release. What i said was shooter. Not a creator with the ball in his hands. He ain't never gonna be all that.
     
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    I wouldn’t give up on him yet. We gave up on CJ right before he became a prolific scorer. We gave up on Trent before we realized he had a killer instinct.

    I thought CJ was a scrub after his first 2 years. It was bad

    Bigs tend to take longer to develop. He’s super young and shows glimpses. Has that personality type and hunger to get better. He’ll be good without a doubt in my mind. Just give it time.
     
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    We blew it with Zach. Shit we coulda even had John Collins or Jarret Allen. How Zach Collins was a 10th pick is beyond me
     
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    Zach probably will never have the dribbling ability that pascal has. He had a step back three late in the game against Memphis today that Zach can only dream of replicating at this point of his career. I’m still a fan, I think he still has a lot of potential
     
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    Define “good”... if by good you mean he will be a rotational piece most of his NBA career, then sure. If you mean good as in he will be a star player then no, he doesn’t excel at anything. He’s a decent defender but other than that? Lot to be desired. Really wish we could go back and take an actual franchise changer like Bam or Mitchell.
     
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