<div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">Why wouldn't you want to see him get a ring, he has payed his dues and he deserves to at least be on a team that can contend.</div> Your right. It just would be hard to see Iverson get a ring with a different team with someone else and not us, after all these great seasons.
Damn Utah screwed us big time. We where set to acquire Jefferson, Green, and the 7th pick overall draft day (Randy Foye), but according to the New York Post Utah backed out at the last minute. Damn that was the trade I really wanted to see happen.
WPVI reported the big rumor is now the trade of Wally Szczerbiak, Sebastian Telfair, and Al Jefferson for AI. What do you guys think?
The 76ers don't want Szcerbiak from what I have heard. That is why Boston was trying to find another team to do this deal. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn Utah screwed us big time. We where set to acquire Jefferson, Green, and the 7th pick overall draft day (Randy Foye), but according to the New York Post Utah backed out at the last minute. Damn that was the trade I really wanted to see happen.</div> Boozer also would have went to us in this deal.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Soft Parade:</div><div class="quote_post">WPVI reported the big rumor is now the trade of Wally Szczerbiak, Sebastian Telfair, and Al Jefferson for AI. What do you guys think?</div> Two parts wrong with your rumor. The first part would be that the Sixers do not want Wally. We're fine at the wing position for many years to come now. Second, it doesn't look like the Celtics would trade Telfair after giving up the #7 for him. I can see Theo + Rajon Rondo/Delonte West + Al Jefferson + Gerald Green/Ryan Gomes for Iverson.
Iverson was apparently almost traded for a package including Foye. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Philadelphia Inquirer - The Sixers nearly traded Allen Iverson before the NBA draft as part of a package to get Boston's first-round draft choice, the No. 7 pick overall, former Villanova star Randy Foye. Iverson is still being shopped by the Sixers.</div> Source
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The latest news surrounding Allen Iverson doesn't revolve around what the 76ers are doing as much as what they're not doing. The Sixers are not interested in trading Iverson for virtually nothing, which is to say they're not interested in being anybody's sucker for this season or any that follows. Whether that has happened in the past is open to debate, but there is no debating how this all could affect the team's franchise player. From the looks of things, Allen Iverson isn't going anywhere. He'll be right at the Wachovia Center for at least 41 nights this regular season - including fan appreciation night. He'll be stuck with this franchise for at least another season, unless the Clippers, Nuggets, Celtics or someone else come up with an offer that makes some sense - regardless of all the tangible clues Iverson has left, giving every indication that he has certainly moved on. Iverson is living in Atlanta, folks. He may still have a home on the Main Line, but that's not where Iverson, his wife and children are spending their days and nights this summer. "He still has a home in Philadelphia," a source close to Iverson said yesterday afternoon. "But let's be honest: He and his family are living in Atlanta now, waiting to see how everything goes down." The truth is, little to nothing is going down at all. That's what happens when you're stigmatized as a lame duck. Teams officially know that Iverson isn't happy with the status quo, that he's anxious to move on. So instead of stars like Kevin Garnett, Dwyane Wade or Kobe Bryant being thrown on the trading table, leftovers are being thrown in the Sixers' direction.</div> Source
I have gotten a e-mail stating that King wouldn't hesitate to send Iverson to the Clippers for Maggette and Livingston.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CharlesD:</div><div class="quote_post">I have gotten a e-mail stating that King wouldn't hesitate to send Iverson to the Clippers for Maggette and Livingston.</div> The article above your post stated that...
Sixers Could be Involved in 8 Team Trade <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">According to multiple sources, in a story broken by Sacramento's Grant Napier on Tuesday evening sports radio, owners and general managers are scrambling to put the finishing touches on a massive 8 team trade. Originally slated to include 6 teams and 16 players two other clubs jumped in on the action Wednesday night bringing the total players involved to as many as 19. The Philadelphia Seventy-Sixers may go down as the franchise who started it all with their heavy shopping of guard Allen Iverson. Golden State is rumored to be the new home of the electric guard who has NBA Finals experience, an All-Star game MVP trophy, and a league leader in scoring to his credit. Golden State is set to send out forward Troy Murphy in the deal. The Denver Nuggets are looking to settle the fued between head coach George Karl and disgruntled and oft-injured power forward Kenyon Martin. The New York Knicks have coveted Martin seeking to place the rugged forward alongside Eddy Curry. The Knicks are set to send out Steve Francis to make room for KMart. Also outgoing from Denver would be guard Andre Miller. The Sacramento Kings appear on the verge of losing guard Bonzi Wells but will seek to sign and trade him in this massive scenerio. Meanwhile the Indiana Pacers will be sending out forward/center Jeff Foster, guard Jamaal Tinsley, and forward Stephen Jackson. The Atlanta Hawks are in the action looking to sign and trade forward Al Harrington. The Seattle Supersonics are rumored to be the 8th team as they are looking to sign and trade Chris Wilcox who's contract negotiations have come to an impasse. Eight other players are involved in order to make the salaries match under the current CBA rules. A huge press conference is scheduled for Friday afternoon as long as all parties can agree and the league approves this NBA record sized transaction. </div> link: http://www.ezekielbearsports.com/index.php...&id=74&Itemid=1 If this indeed is true, I don't know whats more surprising. The fact that there could be as many as 19 players involved in one trade, or the fact that Billy King started this ingenious plan.
Iverson a Clipper? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Sixers GM Billy King won't even waste energy trying to hide the fact that he'd send Allen Iverson to the Los Angeles Clippers in a heartbeat for Corey Maggette and young phenom Shaun Livingston. -- Philadelphia Inquirer</div> Link
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Smitty:</div><div class="quote_post">Link</div> BKS already posted this. lol
Lets go Billy King! IF we can get Maggette and Livingston I wouldn't even hesitate to consider not making the deal. Hopefully we can get this done, Livingston would be our point guard for the future. Please BK, just try and get that deal done...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">BKS already posted this. lol</div> Haha my bad, forgot.
AI Wonders How Trading Him is The Answer <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The 76ers' tumultuous off-season began at approximately 4 p.m. Friday, contrary to those who believe it began in April. It began the moment Allen Iverson opened his mouth. The moment he finally omitted all the rhetoric he's been spouting most of the last 12 months. The moment he started sounding like he was back in 2001, weeks removed from nearly being traded to Detroit, playing for a coach and franchise he didn't seem too enamored with at all. Relaxed and calm as ever for the start of his Celebrity Summer Classic, Iverson didn't give the Sixers the luxury of pointing to his infamous "practice" speech as validation of his petulance and immaturity. He turned the tables, instead, aiming his controlled ire in the direction of a franchise, he intimated, that appears more interested in getting rid of him than building around him. "All I want to know is why me?" Iverson asked, minutes before meeting with reporters at the ESPN Zone on Friday afternoon. "Why am I the one who needs to go?" Later, Iverson would say, "As long as [the Sixers] don't send me to the CBA, I'll play for any team. I just want to play for somebody who's going to appreciate me."</div> Source
Steve Kerr Article <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> With Philadelphia 76ers general manager Billy King all but announcing he is going to trade Allen Iverson this summer, it certainly appears the seven-time all star will don a new uniform next season. Iverson spoke publicly about the situation last week, saying that "he'd like to be in Philadelphia if the Sixers want him." Still, King appears resolute in his intention to deal his talented guard. Philadelphia faltered last season both on the floor and at the gate, despite the fact that Iverson and Chris Webber were healthy all season. With A.I.'s age (31), his salary (about $20 million per year) and the likelihood that the Sixers are looking at another trip to the lottery, King wants to trade Iverson and begin the rebuilding process. Ideally, Philly would obtain a couple of good young players and a high draft pick, but as the summer goes on, it is becoming apparent that King may have trouble finding the deal he wants. <font color=""Red"">The fact is, Iverson isn't nearly as attractive to teams as King had hoped, and he simply doesn't fit into most teams' plans ? financially and otherwise. Here are the reasons why: </font> 1. He's not your prototypical superstar. This is not Charles Barkley or Shaquille O'Neal being shopped ? a physical specimen who can dominate games and change the course of a franchise. Iverson is tiny ? a ferocious competitor, yes, but a slightly built, high-volume, low-percentage shooter. (He has shot 42 percent for his career.) Yes, he's a brilliant scorer ? he poured in 33 points a night for the Sixers this past season ? but he needs a lot of attempts to score his points. He dominates the ball and would dramatically alter the look of any team he joins. So any team that has a plan in place and is making progress would be very wary of threatening its blueprint by adding Iverson. 2. His contract. Iverson has $60 million and three years remaining on his deal. These days, almost every team in the NBA this side of New York is intent on staying below the luxury tax threshold. Taking on his contract is a huge gamble for most franchises, since Iverson can't make enough of an impact to guarantee a club a playoff spot. 3. His durability. At some point, Iverson can't continue to throw his body all over the floor and still stay healthy. He weighs about 165 pounds soaking wet, and he's played so many minutes in his career that it would seem he's ready to begin the inevitable decline that every athlete experiences. If a team is going to trade away several key assets for Iverson, it would want to know that it is getting several good years out of him. That's questionable. 4. "Practice." Iverson's famous tirade back in 2002 regarding the insignificance of actually practicing the game is something that will stay with him forever. NBA coaches have almost no job security whatsoever already, so to be in charge of a team that is led by a guy who doesn't want to practice is not the most tempting thought on earth. Despite those issues, of course, we are talking about one of the most explosive, high-scoring guards in the history of the NBA and a guy who has always been a popular draw with fans. So, undoubtedly, there are some teams interested in Iverson. The trick is to figure out which teams make sense and which don't. It's a little like putting a very expensive but quirky house on the market. Not everyone will be interested, and it will take a special buyer to come in and make an offer. With that in mind, here's an educated guess at which teams might be interested in A.I. We'll go with a process of elimination. Throw out the teams that are already championship contenders because Iverson would be too risky for a franchise that is close to winning it all: Phoenix Suns, San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat, Detroit Pistons, Chicago Bulls and Cleveland Cavaliers. Now toss out the teams that have embarked on youth movements and are unwilling to risk high hopes and future plans with such a brash deal: Charlotte Bobcats, Portland Trail Blazers, New Orleans Hornets, Orlando Magic and Milwaukee Bucks. How about the teams that already have successful, highly paid point guards? Teams like the Sacramento Kings, Washington Wizards and New Jersey Nets? I don't see Iverson in any of those spots. What about the teams that already have high-priced superstars and can't add another huge salary to their payroll? There go the Los Angeles Lakers, Minnesota Timberwolves and Houston Rockets. Throw out the Utah Jazz, too, because I can't ever see Iverson in a Jazz jersey. Can you? Didn't think so. Also, toss out any teams with financial issues. The Seattle SuperSonics are reportedly being sold, and the franchise is in the midst of a battle with the city over a possible new arena. No Seattle for Iverson. So we're left with a group of seven teams that in theory might have an interest in Iverson: Indiana Pacers, Boston Celtics, Atlanta Hawks, New York Knicks, Denver Nuggets, Memphis Grizzlies and Golden State Warriors. Now the question is, out of those teams, which one makes the most sense? And perhaps more importantly, which has the goods to make the Sixers a good offer? <font color=""Red"">Let's look at the possibilities: </font> Atlanta ? This seems like a good fit because the Hawks have lots of good young talent and need a box office star. A sign-and-trade involving Al Harrington and one of their young wing players ? Josh Smith, perhaps ? and another player or two to make the salaries fit would seem to work. This team has been bad for a long time, and Iverson would make a huge splash in Atlanta ? people might actually come to see the games ? but with the Hawks' ownership group involved in ongoing legal battles, the team is severely restricted in making long-term, big-money deals. New York ? Money is no object; we know that. And Iverson would be a huge hit on Broadway. If there's one thing Knicks fans want, it's a star player who will play hard every night and excite them. But who would King want off that roster? Stephon Marbury? Steve Francis? And does Philadelphia really want to trade Iverson to a division rival? Oh, and the Knicks will most likely have Chicago's first-round choice next season, not their own, so their draft pick isn't a great asset. Golden State ? The Warriors could make a move, since they have plenty of big contracts and some desirable young talent in Troy Murphy, Monta Ellis and Jason Richardson. But if I'm the Warriors, I'm not moving Richardson. Philly would most likely have to take Baron Davis to make the deal work. Denver ? Carmelo and A.I. together? Doubtful. Not enough basketballs to go around. Besides, the Nuggets just handed out $140 million in contract extensions. But you never know. Denver doesn't appear to have much of a plan other than to pay a whole bunch of guys a whole lot of money. Maybe the Nuggets can package a few of them for Iverson. Memphis ? It's a possibility. But the Grizzlies aren't giving up Pau Gasol, and other than Mike Miller and Rudy Gay, there's not a whole lot on the roster that would appeal to King. And to make it work, the Sixers would have to take on some bad contracts. Indianapolis ? The Pacers would probably have to part with Jermaine O'Neal to get Iverson, and the rule of thumb is you don't trade big for small. And putting Iverson alongside Stephen Jackson and Jamaal Tinsley? Uh uh. Boston ? Another division rival? Still, all the rumors have Danny Ainge making a huge push for Iverson, which is why the Celtics' G.M. traded for Sebastian Telfair on draft day. (Telfair would end up a Sixer as part of the package. Of course, with the way Randy Foye and Brandon Roy have played this summer, Philly would be much more interested in either one of them than Telfair. So maybe Ainge made a mistake with the trade. But I digress.) Boston does have some young talent to offer in Al Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Tony Allen and Delonte West. But to make the salaries match up, Philly would have to take back either Wally Szczerbiak or Theo Ratliff. And Paul Pierce just signed a huge extension. Do the Celtics want both Pierce and Iverson in the backcourt ? with only one ball between them ? and a gazillion dollars committed to two players who may not complement one another? In the end, there isn't one team that jumps out as an ideal fit for Iverson. And for Billy King, it's not easy to imagine a trade that will bring back what he's looking for. Who knows? Maybe something will materialize and we will see A.I. in a new uniform next season. But there's also a good chance King won't find a deal he likes, and Iverson will stay in Philadelphia. What's the old clich? ? some of the best trades are the ones you don't make? That may be the case here. Iverson has been a Sixer his entire career, he wants to stay and, even though the fans in Philly aren't coming out in droves to see him, they still love A.I. The best spot for him just might be right where he is. </div> link: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqIH...=yhoo&type=lgns
King Denies AI Rumors <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Billy King, the 76ers' president and general manager, said there was no truth to a column this week in the Denver Post that said the Sixers' upper management had vetoed a proposed trade of Allen Iverson to the Denver Nuggets. The column said two of the principals in trade talks between the Sixers and Nuggets were Iverson and Denver forward Kenyon Martin. Columnist Thomas George wrote Tuesday: "The Nuggets have already offered Martin to the Sixers as part of a package to secure Iverson (the Philadelphia coaching staff said yes, but their chairman, Ed Snider, said no, concerned about Martin's previously bum left knee)." King briefly commented on the column last night by phone. "It's a bogus article, and I vehemently deny that there was ever any truth to that article," he said. A source familiar with the situation agreed with King, saying that the Sixers never had considered Martin, who has five years and more than $70 million remaining on his contract.</div> Source
