The Official 2006 Laker Offseason Thread

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  1. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 99224432428:</div><div class="quote_post">Jamall Tinsley at point, no way.

    Jermaine O'Neal is a marquee player but, to invest that ammount is not worth it.</div>

    Why not Tinsley? When he's healthy, he's 10x better than any PG we have on our team. Tinsley would be perfect. He's a veteran, he can teach our young guys a lot of things. A healthy Tinsley gives us anywhere from 11-16 PPG with at least 5 APG. I would venture to say those assist numbers would be around 7 with Kobe, Odom, and Radman shooting the ball.

    As for Jermaine O'neal, I agree to an extent. If we could get him for Odom and Mihm, and the Pacers include James White, I'd do it. Jermaine, once again when healthy, is a top PF in the league. Kobe, Radman, and Jermaine is sick.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's probably elitist but, not everybody should be a Laker.

    Defenitely ditch: Devean George, Von Wafer, Shammond Williams, Jim JAckson, Aaron McKie, and J.R. Pinnock, and Devin Green.</div>

    George likely is gone, I agree with Wafer, why Shammond? He hasn't even gotten a chance to prove himself on the team. He's had experience in the triangle overseas, and he's the best shooting PG we have. Jim Jackson can go and so can McKie. Why J.R. Pinnock? He's been awesome for us in the SPL. Sure it's only the Summer league, but he's been there through all of it. I say at least send him down to the NBDL, before we cut him lose. The same goes for Devin Green.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Keep the rest and let it roll!
    starting 5:

    1)Vujacic,
    2)Kobe,
    3)Odom,
    4)Radmanovic (Radmanovic is better at the 4 because he draws the defending 4 from the post, this would allow Odom to work against a 3 down low, he's also a decent rebounder)
    5)Brown</div>

    The day that Sasha is our starting PG will be the day I don't watch the Lakers play. Sasha is not a PG. He's a SG. The only thing PG about him is his size. Sure he's about 6'7, but he's weak. That's why everyone thinks he's a PG. Sasha, stated by Jackson, will be backing up Kobe this year.

    As for Odom and Radman, I think they should switch. On defense, let Rad play the 3, he's taller than any 3 in the league pretty much. Odom's quick enough to burn a lot of 4's in the paint. At times though, I would like for Rad to pull the opposing 4 out on the perimeter, he could burn him. On defense, I want Lamar at the 4. Radman can't handle that.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Reserves:

    1) Parker, Evans, Farmar
    2)Parker, Profit
    3) Walton, Cook
    4)Turiaf, Cook
    5)Mihm, Bynum

    So obviously really thin at the 4 </div>

    Evans? Evans? Are you kidding me? The guy is a SG/SF, and he'll be seeing most of his time at the 3. Our rotation is going to be more like (starts in bold):

    Smush Parker/Shammond Williams/Jordan Farmar
    Kobe Bryant/Sasha Vujacic/Maurice Evans
    Vladimir Radmanovic/Luke Walton/Maurice Evans
    Lamar Odom/Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
    Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm/Andrew Bynum

    There is also a good chance that some of our players will be traded before the trade deadline. Chris Mihm is a free agent next year. He'll be asking for more than we're willing to pay him. He could potentially walk for nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers shipped him and Cookie out for somebody. Then there's Lamar, I think that Lamar has the first half of the season to get his act together and become that consistent player that everybody loves, if he doesn't, I think we'll see him traded, as well.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kiki Van DWeghe is NOT Laker material, The only GM that need sto be here in LA besides Kupcake, is the LOgo#44

    Thanks for posting something thatwas thoughful and deliberate</div>

    Not Laker material? If Mitch is Laker material, Kiki is far better than Laker material.
     
  2. AKIRA

    AKIRA GO LAKERS!!!

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    jamaal tinsley is a really good fit, he can really rack up the assists when he is healthy, but that isnt often.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 99224432428:</div><div class="quote_post">Jamall Tinsley at point, no way.

    Jermaine O'Neal is a marquee player but, to invest that ammount is not worth it.

    It's probably elitist but, not everybody should be a Laker.

    Defenitely ditch: Devean George, Von Wafer, Shammond Williams, Jim JAckson, Aaron McKie, and J.R. Pinnock, and Devin Green.

    Keep the rest and let it roll!
    starting 5:

    1)Vujacic,
    2)Kobe,
    3)Odom,
    4)Radmanovic (Radmanovic is better at the 4 because he draws the defending 4 from the post, this would allow Odom to work against a 3 down low, he's also a decent rebounder)
    5)Brown

    Reserves:

    1) Parker, Evans, Farmar
    2)Parker, Profit
    3) Walton, Cook
    4)Turiaf, Cook
    5)Mihm, Bynum

    So obviously really thin at the 4

    Kiki Van DWeghe is NOT Laker material, The only GM that need sto be here in LA besides Kupcake, is the LOgo#44

    Thanks for posting something thatwas thoughful and deliberate</div>

    Starting Vlad at the 4 doesn't mean the defense is going to match up with their PF on Vlad. In the offense Vlad should be the SF because he's a better shooter than Odom and the Lakers can move Odom down to the low block to be their main presence on the inside.

    Kiki is an upgrade over Kupchak IMO, but he's not the best choice. I think the target for GM should be Presti in San Antonio. He's the assistant GM there and is the architect behind the Spurs current roster. Obviously the Spurs have some great resources overseas, they constantly find gems late in the lottery. He also successfully negotiated contracts with Parker and Gino by signing them to reasonable deals and not overpaying to retain them.
     
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    I actually like Odom at the 3 and Vlad at the 4.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually like Odom at the 3 and Vlad at the 4.</div>

    Vlad is not a post player though and Odom is the better rebounder. Why would you want to leave Odom out on the perimeter when he's a lot more effective playing in the paint?
     
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    AKIRA GO LAKERS!!!

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    What about this trade:

    <u>Portland get</u>
    Brian Cook
    Aaron McKie
    Radman

    <u>Lakers get</u>
    Zach Randolph
     
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    hmm, you know, I have NO idea, lol, I think I'd like it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AKIRA:</div><div class="quote_post">What about this trade:

    <u>Portland get</u>
    Brian Cook
    Aaron McKie
    Radman

    <u>Lakers get</u>
    Zach Randolph</div>
    No thanks. Why would the Lakers trade away someone who they just signed for the MLE? That just doesnt make sense. Plus, there is no way I want Zach Randolph on any of my teams. Ever since his big payday, he doesn't play with heart, doesn't try on defense, and has problems with conditioning. Plus, the guy is a cancer. Brian Cook and Aaron Mckie are both expiring contracts. I say we either find some other package to put them in or let their contracts come off our books. Randolph is fat, lazy, and has a huge contract. I'll pass
     
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    Why would we trade Rad? He gives us the shooter we've so desperately needed.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AKIRA:</div><div class="quote_post">What about this trade:

    <u>Portland get</u>
    Brian Cook
    Aaron McKie
    Radman

    <u>Lakers get</u>
    Zach Randolph</div>
    Lakers couldn't trade Rad even if they wanted to until around December since he just signed his deal.
     
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    if you want jamaal tinsley, this is what you'll get:
    10 ppg, 7 apg, 38 games.

    and who the hell would in their right mind play odom at the 3 and radmanovic at the 4. not only does it not work on offense, it doesn't work on defense. it's ludicrous. odom gets defensive rebounds. radmanovic doesn't. odom posts up. radmanovic doesn't. so why would we want radmanovic to rebound or post up? i love lamar odom. this team should be:
    pg: kobe
    sg: kobe
    sf: kobe
    pf: lamar
    c: lamar

    that's my ideal lineup lol
     
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    Yeah, your ideal lineup to get 2 wins.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting LongLiveChickH.:</div><div class="quote_post">if you want jamaal tinsley, this is what you'll get:
    10 ppg, 7 apg, 38 games.</div>

    And youre basing that on his injury season. If Tinsley stays healthy, he's one of the best PG's in the league. He's on the level of Jason Terry, Andre Miller, when healthy.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and who the hell would in their right mind play odom at the 3 and radmanovic at the 4. not only does it not work on offense, it doesn't work on defense. it's ludicrous. odom gets defensive rebounds. radmanovic doesn't. odom posts up. radmanovic doesn't. so why would we want radmanovic to rebound or post up? i love lamar odom. this team should be:</div>

    I agree


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">pg: kobe
    sg: kobe
    sf: kobe
    pf: lamar
    c: lamar

    that's my ideal lineup lol</div>

    That's a very ignorant comment. We have plenty of role players who can fit our lineup. You're giving off the impression that those are the only two players who can produce on our team...wrong.

    Kwame Brown. He is starting to show he can give you a solid 12 and 8 performance, nightly. Add that to his stellar post defense, that's piece number 3.

    Vladimir Radmanovic. The Lakers have needed a pure shooter since their championship days, we got one. He'll be very capable of producing anywhere from 14-17 PPG for us with the looks he'll be getting. Don't be surprised if he scores more than Odom.

    Smush Parker. Did you forget how well Smush performed in the first half of the season? If he can strengthen his legs and his stamina, he's very suitable at point guard. If not, we have Shammond Williams who has a chance to prove himself and Jordan Farmar, who's been tearing it up in SPL.
     
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    Damn, the Mavs just acquired Anthony Johnson for virtually nothing. He was one of the veteran guards I wouldn't mind having to close out games for us until Farmar is ready.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, the Mavs just acquired Anthony Johnson for virtually nothing. He was one of the veteran guards I wouldn't mind having to close out games for us until Farmar is ready.</div>
    See? These are moves that piss me off. It really makes me wonder what Mitch is doing. Anothony Johnson is a very experienced player, and a leader. He did terrific in the playoff series against New Jersey, and could have temporarily solved our problems at the point. It just sucks that the Mavs got Anthony Johnson just by giving away Darrell Armstrong and two "young" players. I find it very odd how Mitch couldn't have countered with a better offer, considering we have guys like McKie and Cook, who both have expiring contracts.
     
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    I like this deal...it definetly is an upgrade for us...
     

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