The Official 2019 NBA Finals Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, May 30, 2019.

  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Where did I say that?........
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Nah, Middleton will get a max contract from Milwaukee. LAL wouldn't be able to come close to that (in our scenario).
     
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    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

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    Really think they’ll max him?
    He’s good but that seems like too much to me...
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    You'd be looking at something like Cousins, JJ Redick, and a Rubio/Darren Collison type player.
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Retention is key for small markets. The Bucks are likely gonna do all they can to retain Brogdon/BroLo/Middleton, Mirotic is likely odd man out.
     
  6. TorturedBlazerFan

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    I know you gotta keep your players, just really think thats also how small market teams hurt themselves, by over paying guys like that. Not that Middleton is a bad player he’s very good.
     
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    He was an all-star this year. They pretty much have to do that (or something close) to keep him. Let's put it this way, if CJ was a free agent this year would you rather pay him the max or let him walk for nothing?
     
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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Vucevic, Danny Green, and Collison could end up being the Lakers offseason lol
     
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    Well it would depend on a couple factors like how good is Simons, and would I have a max slot if I let him walk?
    I get your point though, I guess he probably is gonna get that max money.
     
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    The only way Milwaukee would have significant cap space this summer is if they let both Middleton and Brogdon leave for nothing. That doesn't seem like a smart strategy. There aren't any realistic options in free agency better than those two that would sign in Milwaukee.
     
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    Is next summer when they got get the brinx truck out for Giannis?
     
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    Nope, 2 years but he'll be unrestricted so he doesn't have to stay. I'm guessing they'll at least try to sign him to a Super Max extension this summer too.
     
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    Basketball season is over and this has absolutely been a very entertaining season. We got a champion that has never been the champ before. That alone kind of makes it special.
    Lets hope the Blazers can keep some key pieces and dabble in the market enough to make the team a little better again. Seems like slow and steady is winning the race. I just do not see anything else happening.
    There will be no Anthony Davis in a Blazer uniform. But there might be some changes that can shore up the woeful shooting and ball handling that has been around Lillard. Nurks return timeline has not changed. I know there is some video of him doing low to no impact workouts and it's great to see him staying in shape but a double compound fracture is still what it is. There will be pain. There will be extensive rehabilitation. Good days and bad. I personally do not see Jusuf Nurkic being the same player next year. IMO he will be 18 months or the beginning of the 2020-21 season before we see a full 100% Nurkic. That to me means the Blazers absolutely must find a way to keep Kanter if at all possible or find a reasonable replacement. They will also need to try and keep Meyers Leonard so all those trade scenarios throwing in Meyers like an afterthought seem silly to me.
    Turner will be in a Blazer uniform next year at least to start the season. But i don't expect anything to happen until Feb and it will happen with a team that is looking to move salary.
    That means the players the Blazers have to work on still remain the same two problems they have had now for 2-3 years. Aminu and Harkless.
    The Blazers desperately need a player that can make a shot and play some defense. Of course all teams need this. So i guess we will see right?
    As far as a player that might make a difference for the Blazers goes? I personally would be looking outside of the country to the Euroleague and Euro cup. They are not gonna get Doumbouya but there are a couple others That could not only help the Blazers but help them immediately. The Blazers need players that are on rookie contracts that can produce this next year. Amine Noua might be worth a look. A little older 3 and D player. Vanja Marinkovic might also be worth a look. This guy shoots lights out and plays defense. All around player that could very well work well in the Blazers system.

    That is two euro's that can play the game and would be available most likely in the second round. Blazers would have to get a pick somehow? They are not the only players like this out there. My thinking is while trying to go big (Anthony Davis). They should also be looking at players on the cheap that could be diamonds in the rough? Blazers desperately need to hit on a real lucky pick up. Is there a Manu Ginobili out there? You never know?
     
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  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The Raptors just won the championship after firing their coach and trading for Kawhi. How is it that "slow and steady is winning the race"?
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    The Raptors fired their coach and traded for a top 2 player in the world. How in the hell is that slow and steady?
     
  16. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Congratulations to the Toronto Raptors!! tenor.gif
     
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    Well they made the playoffs 8 years before this year without any playoff success so I get where he is coming from. They did not exactly blow it up and start over.
    They were in the proverbial basketball purgatory that so many of you like to talk about. They slowly built a deep team and waited for the right time to invest half of it on 3 vets.
    1) Jonas Valanciunas, Delon Wright, CJ Miles and a 2024 second-round draft pick for Gasol
    2) Demar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round pick for Leonard and Green

    It was a slow and steady process until the 9th year with
    No high draft picks

    But yes give them credit on pulling the trigger at the right time. But you need to build the depth up first.
    As for the coach change who knows how much of a factor it was. Time will tell on that one.
     
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    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    Props to the Raps for picking up Siakum with the #27 pick and an undrafted Vanvleet (I'm not even going to mention OG Anunoby).

    The coach change was huge IMHO. Nurse had the guys hound Curry in a way that I don't think Casey ever would have. I hope Stotts and his staff are paying attention.
     
  19. tlongII

    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    I think you copied @BonesJones post. His post was 50 minutes earlier.
     
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    Good argument for not blowing up a team and going young to get high draft picks. There seems to be players out there almost every year late in the 1st, or in the 2nd or who go un-drafted that can be A missing piece. Denver did it with Jokic, GS did it with Draymond. You still need to have a Kawhi though to pull it off, but trading half your team does nothing unless you have lots of pieces left after you do
     
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