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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by GhostOfPGA, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. oldmangrouch

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    Bringing in Jackson as coach and installing a new offense proved to be pretty significant.
     
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    It did. Of course, the triangle offense won everywhere it went. The players didn't have much to do with it.
     
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    I think the triangle offense is one of those legends that really doesn't hold up when we look at it. That team amassed talent primarily through the draft and made shrewd moves in putting role players on there.

    Jackson's genius wasn't so much in X's and O's as it was in his ability to handle personalities. But the talent on that team would have won regardless of their offensive system, IMO.

    It took FOUR years for the Bulls to win the title after getting Pippen in the draft and making Jackson coach. Everyone seems to remember it like they won everything overnight. They didn't.
     
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    He doesn't remember the Bulls, Celtics or Lakers of old. He hardly can recall the way the Warriors have been built. They sucked also for years.
     
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    kjironman1 Hoops didn't like my other Slogan!

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    I got absolute taken to task for saying these very same things just last week.
     
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    Are you talking about the Lakers or the Bulls? It happened twice but in both places they built a team with generational talent.
    But it takes certain players to run the Triangle.
     
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    I like how you went with multiple Ladies.... And one Gentleman.
     
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    I agree about the triangle. I was responding to the implication that the Bulls drafted Jordan and then just sat back and let the cake bake. In fact, they made multiple changes between the drafting of Jordan and their first title.
     
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    6 years of trying to get things to work. And that is with the greatest player of all time on their roster.
     
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    It's not an exact science, that's for sure. Look at how many coaches/GMs/players the Warriors went through before they got it right! If they had quit and decided change is bad, they wouldn't have those banners flying in the rafters.
     
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    I really hope the Paul George/OKC and the Kawhi Leonard/Raptors story changes the why NBA front offices think. I'm so sick of hearing about teams afraid to go after players because they might be one year rentals.
     
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    NFL teams do it all the time.
     
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    Yeah I read and thought wow this is dumb in terms of where they put teams, only posted it because thought it could he interesting to talk about.
     
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    I think Portland should be somewhere between 4-6ish 10th seems low...
     
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    I mean this happens every year where people fawn over big moves in the West. It hasn't really panned out for any risk takers in the West in the Dame era.
     
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    What's funny is that all the teams w/ cap space could basically strike out on "big names".
     
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    Yes, like the Clippers.

    ESPN assumes Kawhi is signing with the Clippers and pegged them at the #5 spot. We'll see if that comes to fruition.
     
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