<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Allen Iverson's 11-year tenure in Philadelphia is on track to end as soon as Monday night.A source close to Iverson has told ESPN.com that Sixers brass met Sunday to go over the various trade proposals that have come in over the past few days. One or two three-team trade proposals were expected to be explored Monday, and the source said the Sixers were inclined to pull the trigger shortly thereafter -- either Monday night or Tuesday.While the Sixers are apparently looking to pull the plug on the trade quickly, Iverson will be inactive for Monday's game against Portland.The source indicated the Minnesota Timberwolves were not seriously in the running, and the attention being paid to Denver and Boston was being overblown."The offers are better than what was out there last summer," the source said.The source said the Sixers seemed determined to avoid having the Iverson divorce linger anywhere near as long as last year's protracted Ron Artest trade saga in Indiana, which dragged on for nearly seven weeks before he was dealt to Sacramento for Peja Stojakovic."The best offers are the ones that come at the beginning," a well-placed Pacers source told ESPN.com on Saturday, looking back on that drama and comparing it to what's happening in Philadelphia with Iverson.Sixers chairman Ed Snider has already said definitively that Iverson will be granted his wish and be traded, something Iverson asked for last Monday -- a day after the Sixers lost by 11 at home to Minnesota as Ricky Davis jawed with front-row spectators while scoring 14 fourth-quarter points to lock up the win.Amid speculation that Davis, or Mike James, and rookie Randy Foye might be the centerpieces of a deal that would send Iverson to Minnesota, Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor on Friday night told the St. Paul Pioneer-Press: "There's no trade. It isn't that I don't like him, just money-wise it wouldn't work out."And although Taylor backed off those comments somewhat on Saturday, ESPN.com's source, who because of his closeness to Iverson was being kept abreast of all developments, indicated the 76ers weren't enamored of either Davis or the additional pieces they'd have to take back from Minnesota to make the salaries match.Unlike last year's Artest saga, when his relatively small salary ($6.8 million) gave the Pacers a myriad of options to consider, the Sixers have a limited number of proposals to sift through due to the number of players it would take, in most cases, to have salaries that add up within the range ($13.75 million to $21.5 million) of what is needed to match Iverson's salary (he makes $17.2 million this season, $19.1M in 2007-08 and $21.1M in 2008-9) for the trade to work under NBA rules.The Celtics have the advantage of being able to add Theo Ratliff's $11.7 million contract into the mix, while the Memphis Grizzlies would be one of the few teams able to offer Philadelphia cap relief for next summer through Eddie Jones' expiring $15.7 million contract -- if not for the inconvenient fact that team president Jerry West's hands are tied because of the pending sale of the team, precluding him from making trades.Dallas also could offer a package starting with two expiring contracts (Jerry Stackhouse and Austin Croshere), as could New Orleans (Desmond Mason and Mark Jackson add up to almost $13 million), while the Charlotte Bobcats are far enough under the salary cap to take back Iverson in a trade in which the salaries would not have to even come close to matching.Another team that can't be totally dismissed is the New York Knicks, who are in the unique position of being able to take back both Iverson and Chris Webber in a trade. Because the salaries of Iverson and Webber add up to nearly $38 million, the Knicks would have to offer at least $30.4 million worth of contracts back -- a total that could be reached with a package of Steve Francis, Quentin Richardson, Malik Rose and Channing Frye.And although the Sixers would prefer to trade Iverson to a Western Conference team, they're going to take the best offer that's out there, East or West, even in their own division -- and they're going to do it soon.Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.</div>Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2693389
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And although the Sixers would prefer to trade Iverson to a Western Conference team, they're going to take the best offer that's out there, East or West, even in their own division -- and they're going to do it soon.</div> Hopefully that's the case, because I'm tired about hearing where is Iverson going to land. Also, I noticed with these trades, how some people become enamored with their young guys. Like calling some players untouchables when they shouldn't be.
austingriz, Memphis is not getting Allen Iverson if you refuse to give up Gay and/or Warrick. There is no way. You bring up "EDDIE JONES $15 MILL!!!!!" and Alexander Johnson and whatever... bro, that is not even a quarter as interesting for Philly as something like:- Theo Ratliff ($12M expiring!!!!)- Delonte West- Sebastian Telfair- Al Jefferson/Ryan Gomes- Future pickIf you seriously think Memphis will get Iverson without giving up a good young player (Gay or Warrick), then you are seriously kidding yourself.Please... please, give up on trying to defend this still. You are the only one who thinks this way, and if you were the Memphis GM and you called Billy King and said that, here's the convo:Austingriz: "Hey Billy, how are you?"<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Good, Austin, thanks for asking. But let's just get right to the point, I know what this call is about."</span>Austingriz: "I really want Iverson, but Gay and Warrick are off limits. Any ideas?"<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Haha. Come on Austin, no time for joking around, I have Danny Ainge and Kevin McHale on hold right now."</span>Austingriz: "Billy, what's so funny? I really think we can work something out here."<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Ugh. Okay, um... throw an offer at me."</span>Austingriz: "What are your thoughts on Eddie Jones?"<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Veteran presence, a huge expiring contract. I really like that. What else do you have in mind that you would package with him?"</span>Austingriz: "I was thinking something along the lines of Mike Miller."<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Mike is a pretty good player, but we don't need a player like him. He's 26 or 27 years old, and he's not a guy that is going to get any better. We need some young talent, some potential. I don't know how we are going to be able to work anything out with you refusing to part ways with any of your good young talents."</span><span style="color:#FF0000">--- 8 seconds of silence ---</span>Austingriz: "15 million dollars expiring!!!"<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Theo Ratliff's contract over in Boston is $12 million expiring in the same year as Webber's contract expires, plus I can get a couple young guys from them."</span>Austingriz: "15 MILLION DOLLARS!!!"<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "I'm sorry, Austin, but unless you part ways with at least one of Gay or Warrick, then we can't talk Iverson."</span>Austingriz: "You're killing me here! Come on... um... um... ALEXANDER JOHNSON!?!?!"<span style="color:#000000">Billy King: "Goodbye, Austin."</span>Austin: "But.. but.. wait, Billy!"<span style="color:#FF0000">--- Click. ---</span>Austin: "Billy? BILLY!??!!? NOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Dec 11 2006, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hopefully that's the case, because I'm tired about hearing where is Iverson going to land. Also, I noticed with these trades, how some people become enamored with their young guys. Like calling some players untouchables when they shouldn't be.</div>Well trading their future for a ball hog isn't my ideal situation. Losing Harris would hurt our chemistry as in he is out best point guard defender and Iverson is already 31 and has a bad contract.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Dec 10 2006, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>CB32 always has the funniest posts,hes a king.</div>I take it you have never read any of Justice's posts. That dude is hilarious.
not to go off topic but Yeah justice does have some funny posts, monumental(SP) posts, but back to topic I agree with CB32 if the grizzlies offered what austin would want them to there is no way the sixers would do a trade without warrick or gay.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Dec 10 2006, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hopefully that's the case, because I'm tired about hearing where is Iverson going to land.</div>If Billy King was smart he would pull a similar move to what Donnie Walsh did last year in Indiana with Ron Artest. The Sixers are better off being patient and reviewing every offer they can instead of rushing to trade him within the next few days...Why? Because as you get closer to the deadline more and more teams might be willing to trade for him, and they may be desperate enough to give you a better offer than what you're getting now. But, then again, if you get an offer right now that you absolutely feel you cannot refuse, then do it. I'm just scared because I know Billy King is a dumbass and he is going to find a way to screw this trade up for us.
<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><div align="center"><span style="color:#FF0000">Sixers Looking to Pull off Trade by Tuesday</span></div></span>http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2693389<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Allen Iverson's 11-year tenure in Philadelphia is on track to end as soon as Monday night. A source close to Iverson has told ESPN.com that Sixers brass met Sunday to go over the various trade proposals that have come in over the past few days. One or two three-team trade proposals were expected to be explored Monday, and the source said the Sixers were inclined to pull the trigger shortly thereafter -- either Monday night or Tuesday.While the Sixers are apparently looking to pull the plug on the trade quickly, Iverson will be inactive for Monday's game against Portland.The source indicated the Minnesota Timberwolves were not seriously in the running, and the attention being paid to Denver and Boston was being overblown. "The offers are better than what was out there last summer," the source said. The source said the Sixers seemed determined to avoid having the Iverson divorce linger anywhere near as long as last year's protracted Ron Artest trade saga in Indiana, which dragged on for nearly seven weeks before he was dealt to Sacramento for Peja Stojakovic. "The best offers are the ones that come at the beginning," a well-placed Pacers source told ESPN.com on Saturday, looking back on that drama and comparing it to what's happening in Philadelphia with Iverson. Sixers chairman Ed Snider has already said definitively that Iverson will be granted his wish and be traded, something Iverson asked for last Monday -- a day after the Sixers lost by 11 at home to Minnesota as Ricky Davis jawed with front-row spectators while scoring 14 fourth-quarter points to lock up the win. Amid speculation that Davis, or Mike James, and rookie Randy Foye might be the centerpieces of a deal that would send Iverson to Minnesota, Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor on Friday night told the St. Paul Pioneer-Press: "There's no trade. It isn't that I don't like him, just money-wise it wouldn't work out." And although Taylor backed off those comments somewhat on Saturday, ESPN.com's source, who because of his closeness to Iverson was being kept abreast of all developments, indicated the 76ers weren't enamored of either Davis or the additional pieces they'd have to take back from Minnesota to make the salaries match. Unlike last year's Artest saga, when his relatively small salary ($6.8 million) gave the Pacers a myriad of options to consider, the Sixers have a limited number of proposals to sift through due to the number of players it would take, in most cases, to have salaries that add up within the range ($13.75 million to $21.5 million) of what is needed to match Iverson's salary (he makes $17.2 million this season, $19.1M in 2007-08 and $21.1M in 2008-9) for the trade to work under NBA rules. The Celtics have the advantage of being able to add Theo Ratliff's $11.7 million contract into the mix, while the Memphis Grizzlies would be one of the few teams able to offer Philadelphia cap relief for next summer through Eddie Jones' expiring $15.7 million contract -- if not for the inconvenient fact that team president Jerry West's hands are tied because of the pending sale of the team, precluding him from making trades. Dallas also could offer a package starting with two expiring contracts (Jerry Stackhouse and Austin Croshere), as could New Orleans (Desmond Mason and Mark Jackson add up to almost $13 million), while the Charlotte Bobcats are far enough under the salary cap to take back Iverson in a trade in which the salaries would not have to even come close to matching. Another team that can't be totally dismissed is the New York Knicks, who are in the unique position of being able to take back both Iverson and Chris Webber in a trade. Because the salaries of Iverson and Webber add up to nearly $38 million, the Knicks would have to offer at least $30.4 million worth of contracts back -- a total that could be reached with a package of Steve Francis, Quentin Richardson, Malik Rose and Channing Frye. And although the Sixers would prefer to trade Iverson to a Western Conference team, they're going to take the best offer that's out there, East or West, even in their own division -- and they're going to do it soon.</div>Well, I guess they aren't taking the Donnie Walsh/safe route. They want to get this done soon, and of course we all want all the drama to end soon too. But I'll tell ya, it seems like Boston is the most serious about all of this. I honestly am getting a tingly feeling that is starting to make be believe he's coming to Boston. I won't get too ahead of myself, but I will say one thing: I am VERY anxious!!!
I'm definetly leaning more and more to AI going to Boston. Another draft pick in this stacked draft would be great. I love all the young talent they have to offer and I would love to see what we can do with Webber and Ratliff's contracts expiring the same year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Dec 10 2006, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm definetly leaning more and more to AI going to Boston. Another draft pick in this stacked draft would be great. I love all the young talent they have to offer and I would love to see what we can do with Webber and Ratliff's contracts expiring the same year.</div>I don't think the Celtics should trade a pick for THIS years draft. It's too strong, and if we are going to give up Al Jefferson then we really need this years pick for a backup big man (We'd be left with Perk, Gomes, and.... Scalabrine lol). That is another reason I would like to see the Celtics try and swing Steven Hunter in a deal, if something happens.And yeah, unloading Webber and Ratliff's contract in the same year would be awesome for you guys.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Dec 10 2006, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm definetly leaning more and more to AI going to Boston. Another draft pick in this stacked draft would be great. I love all the young talent they have to offer and I would love to see what we can do with Webber and Ratliff's contracts expiring the same year.</div>The cap relief and cap space we will have in the summer of 2008 isn't really anything special since there aren't really any big name superstar free agents that summer as of right now. If we end up having a lot of cap space that summer I would much rather not spend it and wait until we can land a big free agent... but then again we don't know what sort of position we will be in at that point in time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Dec 10 2006, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The cap relief and cap space we will have in the summer of 2008 isn't really anything special since there aren't really any big name superstar free agents that summer as of right now. If we end up having a lot of cap space that summer I would much rather not spend it and wait until we can land a big free agent... but then again we don't know what sort of position we will be in at that point in time.</div>Damn, I haven't really looked over who would be available in the '08 offseason, but I assumed there would be atleast one good player we could go after.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Dec 10 2006, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whens the next time a big name free agent hits the open market?</div>Vince Carter is the big name that hits the free agent market this summer. Past him, I don't know who else is supposed to hit the free agent market.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Celtics have the advantage of being able to add Theo Ratliff's $11.7 million contract into the mix, while the Memphis Grizzlies would be one of the few teams able to offer Philadelphia cap relief for next summer through Eddie Jones' expiring $15.7 million contract -- if not for the inconvenient fact that team president Jerry West's hands are tied because of the pending sale of the team, precluding him from making trades.</div>Never mentions Gay/Warrick(from ESPN.com)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The best trade for Allen Iverson: Iverson to the Grizzlies for Eddie Jones, Dahntay Jones and as many first-round picks it takes to complete the deal. As unattractive as it would seem for Iverson to play for a smaller-market franchise like the Grizzlies, there are a couple reasons in particular this would be the best fit for him. First, the supporting cast fits with Iverson's game. When he eventually gets healthy, Pau Gasol will be a steady post presence who's not past his prime like Webber, but who is also not so dominant that he will require the ball every time down the court. Gasol can be known for being passive at times (read: soft), and Iverson can be the heart and toughness needed to complement the Spanish big man. And around the two of them are enough athletes like Hakim Warrick and Rudy Gay to attack the boards for any misses Iverson scatters, and enough shooters like Mike Miller and Chucky Atkins to make defenses pay for collapsing on Iverson or Gasol. Then there's the coach. Fratello, despite constant suggestions that he may be fired, is still a respected coach who will emphasize defense and not let Iverson walk all over him the way some believe Maurice Cheeks allowed. It would seem like an odd marriage, but who thought Larry Brown would end up being the best fit for Iverson either? The problem here lies with the team's potential ownership transition, which is likely keeping the Grizzlies from making any moves until it's decided.</div> Mentions warrick and gay....STILL AS GRIZZLIESLink<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The only team that makes some semblance of sense is Memphis, which is slumping without Pau Gasol and is sitting on Eddie Jones' expiring $15 million contract. But owner Michael Heisley is on his way out, and the Brian Davis/Christian Laettner group he was looking to sell to apparently does not have the juice to make the deal happen. Does Heisley really want to slap a $60 million contract on the books of a franchise he is having trouble selling? The Sixers had better hope so. The Grizzlies might be the only team that could scare the Timberwolves into giving up Foye. Give the Sixers Eddie Jones and toss in a bone or two like Dahntay Jones and a draft pick, and Philly would have to bite on the offer.</div> doesn't mention anything about Hak or RudyLink
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 10 2006, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never mentions Gay/Warrick(from ESPN.com) Mentions warrick and gay....STILL AS GRIZZLIESLink doesn't mention anything about Hak or RudyLink</div>And do you know why? Because the Grizzlies can't make a trade due to the pending sale of the team. So, no Iverson to Memphis...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 10 2006, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Never mentions Gay/Warrick(from ESPN.com) Mentions warrick and gay....STILL AS GRIZZLIESLink doesn't mention anything about Hak or RudyLink</div>I don't care what that crap says, Philly would be absolutely STUPID to turn down Ratliff/2-3 young Celtics, and maybe a pick... and end up taking Eddie Jones, Danhtay Jones, and a pick.
Nope....it fell through so for a short while right now, Memphis can still deal OR the sell would be quick(maybe a week) but the trade would be agreed on, but still unofficial. Kindve like the Battier/Gay-Stro deal.Anyways thats not the point...none of those mentions Warrick or Gay being traded.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 10 2006, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't care what that crap says, Philly would be absolutely STUPID to turn down Ratliff/2-3 young Celtics, and maybe a pick... and end up taking Eddie Jones, Danhtay Jones, and a pick.</div>like I said earlier, ive read Philly is asking too much from Boston and Ainge dont wanna give too much up...maybe its why they came out and said Green was untouchable.
