<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (coyn3burglar @ Dec 12 2006, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man I just want this to hurry up and happen. I've been thinking about it a lot.</div>I wish I could just "think about it" and call it a day. I have been reloading pages literally all day long. I'm going to get off my big ass and go do something that requires movement. But, the report on Sunday said a deal would come Monday or Tuesday.. I bet nothing happens for a couple days. Ugh.
Man trade AI already, there not going to get anything that is close to hsi value so they shoudl just settle for the best offer. Im just hoping that an offer liek that comes from the Clipps or from Boston
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tmgbball15 @ Dec 12 2006, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Man trade AI already, there not going to get anything that is close to hsi value so they shoudl just settle for the best offer. Im just hoping that an offer liek that comes from the Clipps or from Boston</div>That's the thing... they have multiple offers and they are taking their time looking at the positives and negatives of each offer. I still expect them to pull the trigger on a deal before next Monday though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 12 2006, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know that was a joke and all, but even if King did retire, the Sixers would still have to deal Iverson lol. That wouldn't change anything.</div>Clangus was talking about Iverson, not King, in his post.What about Indiana? Are they still contenders in getting Iverson?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Dec 12 2006, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Clangus was talking about Iverson, not King, in his post.What about Indiana? Are they still contenders in getting Iverson?</div>I think they will try and make a run, and Billy King and Donnie Walsh have a close relationship, but at the end of the day I don't take them as seriously as other teams. They have some pieces, and the ones they are trying to move are Jackson/Tinsley, etc. They don't have the young talent or packages necessary to get this deal done like a team like Golden State or Boston has. At the end of the day, I consider Golden State and Boston the teams for real.Also, anyone ever think that Ainge calling both Green and Jefferson untouchable is a smokescreen? A smokescreen to see how low Philly will drop the ball. I think that's what is going on, and I think when the time is right (only god knows when that time is), Danny will make his move. He's very patient and descreit about everything, and he's a smart guy. He knows what he's doing. I think at the end of the day, Gerald Green might be the guy to go. I hate to say it, and I'd hate to see either Gerald or Big Al leave, but at the same time - you always keep the good young big man over the good young offensive minded wing (especially when you currently have Paul Pierce, Wally Szczerbiak... then possibly Allen Iverson).I think I have a point in my paragraph above, and at the same time I am probably talking out of my ass a little bit because this whole Iverson fiasco is a cluster F*ck. I don't know what to think anymore.
New Iverson article by Marc Stein:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor...&id=2695408<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What they're saying on the Allen Iverson grapevine: The Answer has let it be known that he doesn't want to play in Charlotte.<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">What they're also saying in front-office circles: Iverson isn't thrilled about the prospect of relocating to Sacramento, either.</span>What I find myself saying whenever I hear such sentiments: How do players scare teams off so easily when almost no one in the NBA possesses a no-trade clause?The Bobcats, let's face it, would be skittish about trading for A.I. even if he welcomed the move, given owner Bob Johnson's obvious comfort level with a roster that doesn't pay a single player more than $5.5 million. Although he badly wants to fill up his building and ranks as one of the league's most outspoken owners regarding the struggles of small-market teams, Johnson's hesitancy to sanction an Iverson deal doesn't surprise anyone. You can safely surmise that the little man's knack for selling tickets doesn't stand out to the Bobs as much the $39.8 million left on his contract after this season and Iverson's hard-to-handle history.But here's the thing.Iverson doesn't possess the ultimate hammer. NBA front-office sources confirmed Tuesday that his contract does not contain a no-trade clause.In fact, as far as I know, the Lakers' Kobe Bryant is the only NBA player who has one.Why?This simply isn't baseball, where no-trade clauses or partial no-trade clauses are routinely built into player contracts ... and where the famed 10-and-5 rule automatically enables veterans with 10 years of service time and five with a player's current team to veto trades.In the NBA, only players with at least eight years of service time and four with the same team are eligible for a no-trade clause.The problem?Very few players get to that point with one team and then have the opportunity to negotiate a no-trade clause through free-agency.Star players like Iverson, for starters, generally sign their first big-money deals well before their eighth season. Star players like Iverson, furthermore, often sign extensions to those big deals ... and NBA extensions do not allow players to add major changes in contract terms, such as a no-trade clause. A player must enter free agency to change major terms in a contract.That's how Bryant put himself in the rare position to negotiate a no-trade clause. He was a full-fledged unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2004 and, having just completed his eighth season and after flirting seriously with the Clippers, signed a new seven-year, $136 million contract with the Lakers which includes a no-trade provision.Iverson?He's actually never been eligible for a no-trade clause, even though this is his 11th season with the same team. His four-year, $72.4 million extension with the Sixers, which began last season, operates under the same main terms -- without a no-trade clause, in other words -- as his previous contract, which he signed before he had eight years in the league.The league, on top of that, now has the right to suspend players who refuse to report to their new teams after trades, following the Alonzo Mourning debacle in Toronto after the Nets swiped Vince Carter from the Raps in December 2004.Yet the league's authority in such matters didn't stop the Bobs from quickly abandoning the concept of adding Iverson to their quartet of promising kiddies: Emeka Okafor, Adam Morrison, Raymond Felton and Sean May.We'll have to wait and see how it impacts the Kings, who continue to flirt with the idea of sending Mike Bibby (and others excluding Kevin Martin) to Philly to pair Iverson with Ron Artest ... and who have a history of ignoring star players' initial resistance to Sacto (Chris Webber and Artest) and trading for them anyway.<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%">Iverson, sources says, most wants to go Minnesota or Boston. He's also apparently open to Indiana and would presumably sanction Denver, which has registered interest in spite of its vows to sit this out.</span>All those teams continue to face serious issues assembling the package of young players, draft picks and/or favorable contracts Philly is looking for, but their quests live on and actually gain momentum if Iverson can continue to dissuade Charlotte from making bids.Even without official trade-blocking power.</div>Minnesota or Boston is what he likes? So do I! But hmm, he wasn't thrilled about Sacramento huh? Just make Iverson happy and get young talent: Boston it is (I hope and pray).
Well, ive heard Philly wont do it unless Jefferson,Telfair and others go to Philly. Would you be willing to do that?I wouldnt. If the only way Memphis could get AI is us giving up Hakim Warrick with Kyle Lowry....I would say :censored2: you Billy King.
I would definitely giveTelfair, West, Szczerbiak, Ratliff..MAYBE Gomes if I have to give up one of the big 3 young guysthe celtics should give philly Minnesota's top 10 restricted 1st rounder that we have
^^ not all of them...id probably take out Wallybut those are the players id be willing to let go..the rest I wanna keep
Gomes, Jefferson or Green?I cant decide..all are so good and have so much potential..and have at times come out of their shell to prove their potentialI would have to give up Gomes if I had to choose one though
Just like CB32 said The celtics would probaly have to give up Green before they give up AL because real talented big men are hard to come by, I mean the celtics could find someone like Green in the draft this year or next year you never know, besides they already have pierce.
Forget Gomes, okay hes having a good season and hes young. But philly would want Perkins or Telfair over him.I have nothing against Boston at all, but I just dont think Allen Iverson with Paul Pierce is going to be a contending team. Of course they're going to make the playoffs, but after that I dont see them running far into them. Paul Pierce and AI just wont mesh well together IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz76 @ Dec 12 2006, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Forget Gomes, okay hes having a good season and hes young. But philly would want Perkins or Telfair over him.I have nothing against Boston at all, but I just dont think Allen Iverson with Paul Pierce is going to be a contending team. Of course they're going to make the playoffs, but after that I dont see them running far into them. Paul Pierce and AI just wont mesh well together IMO.</div>you never know until it happens, for all you know they could mesh very good together and make a deadly combination and go far into the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Dec 13 2006, 07:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I know that was a joke and all, but even if King did retire, the Sixers would still have to deal Iverson lol. That wouldn't change anything.</div>lol dude I meant Iverson
Well, if he goes to Boston, thats my prediction.But as this thing goes on longer and longer, Im starting to hear about Boston less and less.
Then what teams have you been hearing about, because almost every article I see talks about Boston as a destination.
Forget articles....they're a waste of paper cause its just a copy of the article from 2 days ago. By now with stuff this big, oyu gotta go deep and find sources youreslf....I know people who know people
