THE "OFFICIAL" AROUND THE NBA 2012-13 THREAD...........

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  1. KingSpeed

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    If David Lee had Aldridge's body he'd probably be the second best player in the league. If Aldridge had Lee's body, he'd be Matt Bonner.

    I wouldn't mind hearing your case for why you think LMA is better than Lee though.
     
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    your homer statement is just as outlandish as Mags.
     
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    Evil to hope a guy hurts his knee to an extent that he won't be able to play basketball for a while? OMG the pain is unbearable, his life is over. Give me a fucking break.


    Wrong.

    And I am a giant pussy.
     
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    So you think Lee is better then LA? Id like to hear your case for that.

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    Never said that, but Mags said Aldridge is better. I just wanted to hear Mags, or any of you, really break down why Aldridge is better.
     
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    Well your statement is quite absurd about body and shit. Aldridge has a better win share, actually demands doubles and so far has a better productive career than lee so far. You could talk about lee having a rebounding edge over Aldridge; but then again Aldridge is making an argument so far this season.

    Btw if you give lebron James body to Matthews; he'd be a superstar. Problem... They don't have their body which doesn't apply to actual value.
     
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    I honestly havent watched enough of David Lee to give great insight when comparing them. This is what iv noticed.
    Lee is a better rebounder and passer although it seems LA is better at passing out of a double. They both can shoot decently, LAs the better athlete and is a better overall defender. LA is better in the post. Lee has better hands.
    Im on the bus so i cant go into much more depth then that at the momentm
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    I was talking about comparing them right now. No point in comparing careers since they've gone down very different paths. Lee is better than Aldridge in most metrics this year, including win shares:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_advanced.html

    The rebounding still is not close, even in Aldridge's best rebounding season (though he had a good January on the glass). Aldridge is the better defensive player, though Lee has the better DRtg. Aldridge does command doubles more and probably a better pure go-to scorer, but Lee's developed into a pretty damn good option himself.

    What I'm getting at is that most metrics favor David Lee this season. Obviously Aldridge has his advantages, but to say hes better than Lee with certainty is to oppose all of these advanced statistics developed to gauge players. Even by non-advanced statistics, Lee beats him in most areas. There's more to it, but its extremely debatable and I think its ridiculous to say LMA is better this season like it is a fact.

    I'd trade Lee for Aldridge though lol.
     
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    First off I gave props to lee. And I still believe Aldridge is better regardless. I haven't seen the offensive skill set to prove otherwise. The difference between them maybe slim statistically; but both play in a extremely different scheme. Golden state runs on you while Portland likes to play inside out with Aldridge. A lot of rebounds are coming from back and forth games. I think if you put lee in Portland instead of Aldridge; he wouldn't do as well.
     
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    Lee plays at 100%. Aldridge is the opposite of an effort player and plays at about 75%. Aldridge is an all-star based upon his potential, not his actual output.
     
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    Ah yes, the old "black people are lazy" argument.
     
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    Alicia Keys just sang the national anthem while sitting down. jlprk will complain how lazy she is too.
     
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