Notice The OFFICIAL Corona Virus Vaccine Game Thread........

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  1. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Effective does not mean 100% effective.

    Are you actually trying to suggest that not a single vaccinated person has died of COVID? Because that’s what it sounds like.
     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Well, that's what Dr. Fauci says and I'll take his word over yours.

    "The national public-health agency also has stated that its review of the medical records of those who died shortly after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine revealed “no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths.”"

    https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...bounds-online-evidence-doesnt-back-it-up.html

    You've probably been watching too much Tucker Carlson on FOX.
     
  3. DUB

    DUB Da, da da, da dah!

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    Just got my first dose of Pfizer. I’m in the observation room now. The vaccine rollout has been incredibly slow in Australia. Due to my age and location I only became eligible for vaccination on Monday.
     
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    this would make the MAGA crowd spontaneously combust
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    No.
    1 in 600 die of covid-19 before vaccination. Giving you the benefit of a doubt,
    4 out of 140,000,000 die of covid-19 after being vaccinated.

    These numbers are not close.

    Nearly everybody in hospitals with Covid-19 is unvaccinated.
     
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    I've stated the numbers. They aren't close. Each of us would be about 58,000 times more likely to die this year without the vaccine...
     
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  7. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yes, ain't it great.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Here's my "get 'em vaccinated" plan:
    1. Rationally explain the high risk of getting, and dangers of dying from Covid, along with the horrors of long-haul Covid.
    2. Remind them that they all got vaccines when they were little and as a result, they didn't get Polio, or Dypytheria, or Mumps, Scarlett Fever, etc.
    3. Show how these Covid vaccines are actually even safer than those, and have been thoroughly tested.
    They will see that getting vaccinated will save their lives, help the economy, reopen the country, and end the pandemic.

    Oh, wait, damn, that requires rational, logical thought on their part, unaffected by thought poison.

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    Plan B: Prove Darwin right once again and let them get sick or die.
     
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    Except for the fact that Obama and Covid both have the letter O in them.

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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Post of the day.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Also, they were both born in other countries.
     
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    There isn't anything wrong with the article.
     
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    Maybe, maybe not, how can I be sure without knowing it's a credible site? If it's a credible story, surely there's a credible site out there that carries the story.
     
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    nbcnews.com

    Virtually all hospitalized Covid patients have one thing in common: They're unvaccinated
    By Erika Edwards

    There are only three Covid-19 patients at Sandra Atlas Bass Heart Hospital at North Shore University Hospital, on Long Island, New York — a far cry from when the hospital, which is part of Northwell Health, had as many as 600 patients during the peak of the pandemic.

    All three patients, who are in the intensive care unit, have one thing in common, said Dr. Hugh Cassiere, director of the hospital's critical care services: They're unvaccinated.

    The trend appears to be occurring at hospitals nationwide.

    "I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," said Dr. Josh Denson, a pulmonary medicine and critical care physician at Tulane University Medical Center in New Orleans.

    It's been the same for Dr. Ken Lyn-Kew, a pulmonologist in the critical care department at Denver's National Jewish Health: "None of our ICU patients has been vaccinated."

    Unvaccinated children, too, seem to be at increased risk for severe illness.

    "In our local hospitals, the kids that are getting sick are the ones that are not vaccinated," said Dr. Natasha Burgert, a pediatrician in Overland Park, Kansas, and a national spokesperson for the American Academy of Pediatrics.

    Thanks to the Covid-19 vaccines, the number of patients hospitalized has plummeted, from more than 125,000 on average in early January to just over 15,000 on average this week, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    "The vaccines are working really well," Denson said. "It's just ridiculous not to get it."


    Just over half of adults — 53 percent — have been fully vaccinated.

    Critical care doctors have also emphasized the importance of completing the Covid-19 vaccination series.

    Dr. Todd Rice, director the medical intensive care unit at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, said the hospital has admitted at least 32 patients who were only partially vaccinated, meaning they'd received one shot or hadn't had enough time after their final dose for their immune systems to develop protective antibodies.

    But the overwhelming majority of sick patients in recent months — since the vaccines have become widely available — have not been vaccinated, Rice said.

    Breakthrough infections — meaning ones that occur in fully vaccinated individuals — are possible, though extremely rare. If they do occur, it's highly unlikely that a person will need to be hospitalized, according a study posted Friday to the preprint server MedRxiv. (Studies posted to preprint severs have not been peer-reviewed.)

    When Rice has seen breakthrough cases needing hospitalization, it was only in patients with compromised immune systems, who therefore likely did not respond as well to the vaccines.

    "One of the ones we took care of had cancer, and another was on immunosuppressants for a rheumatologic disease," Rice said.

    Lyn-Kew, too, had one or two extremely ill patients who'd been fully vaccinated.

    "It turns out they were all immunosuppressed," he said.

    Some, he said, had cancer at the time of their shots and did not respond well to the vaccines.

    Though the CDC recommends people get vaccinated regardless of whether they were previously infected, Lyn-Kew said some of his hospitalized patients had decided to forgo vaccination because of previous illness — even if they'd never been tested to confirm they had Covid-19.

    "They thought they were sick from Covid, but they weren't. And they have the mindset of, 'Oh, I don't need to get vaccinated because of that,'" Lyn-Kew said. "They're gravely mistaken."
     
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