Notice The OFFICIAL Corona Virus Vaccine Game Thread........

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  1. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Yeah, the mRNA vaccine is a new way of fighting a virus by presenting the body with the outer trappings of the virus so the body can develop antibodies to that part of the viral structure without presenting the whole virus. In other words, you're not getting the virus itself whether weakened or dead so there's zero chance of contracting the disease from the vaccine. It's a new technique and should speed up any vaccine development in the future.
     
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    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    Wait for the J&J vaccine. I have stock in those companies.
     
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    There hasn't been much talk about the antibody testing?
     
  5. Phatguysrule

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    It doesn't work perfectly. It works 94% of the time.
     
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    The vaccine is just as effective in the elderly as the healthy and young population, and no more risky. These people were part of the trial as well.

    If we have 6 months of protection and have to vaccinate twice per year that's far better than the alternative.

    However, there is no reason to think that would be the case. We know maximum protection (high antibody levels) lasts AT LEAST 6 months. There is no sign of weakening.

    In other words, the MRNA vaccines last at least as long as the flu vaccine, and are far more effective.

    That's enough to eliminate the risk of Epidemic if enough people take it.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    We do know that the numbers show the risk of any lasting side effect to the vaccine is far lower than the risk of death or long term impact from covid-19 if you don't get the vaccine.

    That's just math.
     
  8. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    If you dont want the vaccine, whats your plan? Just play Covid-dodgeball until it magically disappears, per Trump? That doesn't seem to be happening. If someone doesnt want the vaccine, im more than OK with that, assuming they continue to self isolate and stay home. But I have a hunch the anti vax folks aren't going to do that. What about teachers? Do I send my kids back to school and hope that Ms Smith the art teacher isn't afraid of the vaccination?
     
  9. oldfisherman

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    This vaccine release is a cluster fuck. People should be fighting in line to get it. We need to get politics out of the way, and bring in marketing professionals to handle it. I am coming out of retirement to show you kids how to make everyone want the vaccine.

    Almost everyone consumes products proven to cause negative long term health affects. Combine the vaccine with these products, and everyone will be vaccinated.

    Place the Vaccine in sugary soda, beer, and pot. I'll take my vaccine in a cigar. There are tons of options to fit any need.

    Covid is gone, and everyone is happy getting there.
     
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  10. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Just plant a story that increased sex drive is one of the side effects.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I'm down 12% on BionTech today.
     
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    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    That is some messed up shit. Something I would imagine North Korea does not the USA. On that note, why don't we just grind up the dead and feed it to the population too. It will save time on digging the graves and people will not know its happened. And since everyone is already vaccinated no muss no fuss.

    Right?

    I mean how far do we want to cross the line?

    Lets make Soylent Green come true why don't we.

    I can't believe what I am reading and how easy it is for those who I thought had a pretty high moral and ethical integrity are just so casually throwing it out the window.

    It's frightening and disgusting.
     
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    Not only did you miss my point, you completely jumped the tracks.

    People consume products every day that have been proven in many research studies to be more harmful than taking the vaccine. Yet they continue to lie to themselves that smoking pot, or cigars, has no long term side effects in some people. Same with drinking sugary soda, as well as many other products that can cause diabetes.

    Yet some people are afraid to take the vaccine that might save their life. I was just making fun of how much lieing people do to themselves to justify their harmful bad habits.

    No idea what the rest of your post is about.
     
  15. Strenuus

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    My argument to this is that you're equating an addiction (cigarettes, caffeine, etc) where there are rituals and practices that fortify and strengthen the addiction (i.e. the addiction isn't so much the actual chemicals... which it is, don't get me wrong, but the routine of the anticipation of the next time they are to recieve it). Equating that to a vaccine which is an unknown isn't quite right. People are way more afraid of the unknown than they are of the known harms. When people go into a dark room... they instinctively slow down.. feel for a wall, shuffle their feet. In a lit room they have that schema and knowledge.

    Psychologically, it makes a ton of sense why people may be wary of the vaccine.
     
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    You make valid points. My analogy is not perfect. I am open to read a better one. But...

    My counter argument is. None of the bad habits I mentioned are contageous. Covid is.

    I was on the fence for a long time. I read as much research as possible. Not only is covid a killer in some people. There are theories that people with no symptoms now, may have increased risk of health problems from having covid as they get older.

    Their are risks either way. The best science now believes not getting and spreading covid is the best odds to play. The best answer appears to be the vaccine.
     
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    Oh I dont disagree there either. I was more just saying psychologically why it may be easier for a person to light up the cigarette or place the bet or what have you, and not for a contagious disease. They already have all the foundation in their brain to make the decision in an addiction and the cognitive dissonance to do it... though I suppose there's cognitive dissonance in not wanting to get vaccinated as well.

    If I were to be fair, I feel like I'm arguing semantics more than anything. But that is how psychology works... within the grey.

    Myself, im gonna wait and let the people that need it more than I to go first. Not because I'm afraid of the side effects, but moreso just needing to see what kind of effaciy this brings.

    Fauci did also say that it should be about late march/early April for people with no underlying conditions to get the vaccine, and probably around fall when social limitations will really ease up and "normalcy" may come back. However, im probably getting the vaccine earlier for the pure fact that I work in a Healthcare setting.
     
  18. EL PRESIDENTE

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    I'll wait my turn in line, which will be a while. I'll see how the reactions are at that time and make an informed decision on which vaccine to take, based on the side effects and effectiveness at that time.

    If I had the choice right now to take it, I would not. I'm not an early adopter type, I'll let them get the kinks and bugs out first.
     
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    We know no such thing. There is only 6 months of study data.
     
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    Why not put it in the engines of planes and then have the chemtrails spread them in the air!
     
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