The Official Lottery/Draft Thread

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  1. PlaTsanity

    PlaTsanity JBB JustBBall Member

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    Okay..
    I say:
    Draft felton at 9
    and either McCant or Sean May at 16th..
     
  2. og15

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    Sean May? Why in the world would we even think of drafting May? He's a PF, our franchise player is a PF, it would be such was waste of a pick. Though at 16th, neither May or McCants will likely be available, they're both projected in the lottery, so I don't even see how we could do it.
     
  3. Stunt101

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    i would agree with paltsanity. drafting sean may is good becuase he can play centre.although i wouldnt consider araujo a bust JUST yet...we have a second round pick that has a lot of swingman in the area. I like the way sean may plays especially during the championship game.
     
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  5. P.A.P.

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    I don't think we'll have another T-Mac situation with Green, because we already have Bosh. They play two different posistions and will benefit from eachother. They won't be taking away PT from eachother, taking away shots from eachother and etc. because if everything goes as plan, Green will turn out to be a very good scoring option and will get enough shots as a 2nd option (by 2006, 2007),to be happy (hopefully).

    With our 2nd round pick, I'm hopeful that we draft a PG. My favorite PG in the draft (aside from Paul) is Felton, however Deron Williams is the one who is more favoured. I wouldn't mind getting either of them, however, I do not think they'll be their at our 2nd pick. Felton might, but I doubt it. Well how about we choose one of them with our first pick? Green has the bigger upside. The Raptors are looking towards the "future" and would like to get someone who can evolve to a very good player in a couple of years from now. It's more likely to see Green making the All-Star team in 2007 than Felton or Williams.

    Jarret Jack will be the next best option at the PG spot at our 2nd pick. He has very very good D, to go along with his PG skills and his scoring.

    If somehow the Raps decide to take a PG with our first pick (Williams/Felton), then we could look at a SG/Swingman with our 2nd pick. Rashad McCants, Danny Granger(F), Antoine Wright are possible options. I've heard a lot about Monta Ellis, but I want to hear about what he does in camps first before I decide to draft a 6'2", 175 lbs. HS SG.
     
  6. Nasty

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    We won the tie-breaker with the Knicks!! Great!

    If the ping pong balls bounce as expected, we might get a shot at drafting GG.
    With Marvin, Raymond and Sean declaring today, it makes the draft even deeper.

    Top 7 Picks: Marvin, Bogut, Paul, Deron Williams, Marty, Taft and Vazquez.

    Which puts Babcock in an interesting situation, does he take Green or Felton?!!
    Ofcourse, the projections will change after the Chicago camp and the private workouts, but I'd personally go with Green since he has way more upside and a greater All Star potential. Besides, we can get Jarret Jack with the Philly pick.
     
  7. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Stunt101:</div><div class="quote_post">i would agree with paltsanity. drafting sean may is good becuase he can play centre.although i wouldnt consider araujo a bust JUST yet...we have a second round pick that has a lot of swingman in the area. I like the way sean may plays especially during the championship game.</div>
    You mean he can play center in College, Sean May is 6'9, and he's not athletic, he's not a good choice at all for an NBA center.

    Also Yippe about the tie-breaker, good stuff, I was praying for us [​IMG]
     
  8. Nasty

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    Sean May = Lonny Baxter with a go-to post move.
     
  9. Drunkballer

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    What do people think about Chris Taft?
    I know people have said he's too passive A.K.A Lazy, and his sophmore season he didn't actually put up the numbers(compared to his freshman season which was spectacular).
    He has potential though, and i think if Sam Mitchell could be the right guy to motivate him. Also the value in Taft is he's a Tweener, he could likely play Centre or PF. With us losing Donyell we need someone who can eat up those minuntes. Taft is long an atheletic 6"10 260. Pape sow is not ready to play 20 minutes a game.

    I haven't not seen Gerarld Green at all but if people compare him to T-mac (skill wise) thats a good thing.

    Deron Williams or Chris Paul are the elite pg's in this draft. I think there is a fall off when you add Jarret Jack and Raymond Felton to the equation.
     
  10. Proz4k

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    We got the 7 & 16 picks, it's better then my hopes, but it's can easily become a disaster if Bobcok will take the businesses to his only hands and we can sit here until next summer with the same **** in this squad.

    I say we have to pick <u>Gerald Green</u> 6-8 200 SF TX HSSr in 7 pick or <u>Danny Granger</u> 6-8 225 SF New Mex. Sr in 16 pick.
    If we don't do that we will be ON THE FACE next season.
     
  11. raptors4life

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    http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14555

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">07. Toronto Raptors - Jarret Jack 6'0 PG Georgia Tech - I know they have Rafer Alston and a much bigger need at SG, but Jarret can push the ball plus Bosh loves this guy. He could surplant Raefer at PG and make him tradeable. </div>

    It's a Mock Draft. I heard that this guy is pretty much best friends with Chris. Imagine the 2 playing together? they could make a pretty good duo..
     
  12. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's a Mock Draft. I heard that this guy is pretty much best friends with Chris. Imagine the 2 playing together? they could make a pretty good duo.</div>

    That mock draft is old and pretty innacurrate. There's too many big problems in it. For example, you could pretty much flip Jarrett Jack and Fran Vazquez in this, because Vazquez now has top 8 stock while Jack is looking at the mid-first to early second round. Including guys like Roberts, J. Williams, and Hodge in the first round is just silly as well.

    Here is a link to JustBBall.Com's Mock Draft (Version 3) -

    http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread...81&page=1&pp=20

    We have you guys drafting Raymond Felton at #7 and Charlie Villanueva at #16. If you reply, just remember to keep an open mind. We're not saying we know more about your team than you do. This is just a projection that we'll be changing many times over the next few months leading up to the draft.
     
  13. Stunt101

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    anyway marvin williams can slip down to 7th??
     
  14. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Stunt101:</div><div class="quote_post">anyway marvin williams can slip down to 7th??</div>

    Haha, maybe if Marvin Williams breaks his neck and they pass a rule forcing all other NCAA and HS players to enter the draft. Then you guys have a slim chance of getting Marvin Williams at #7. [​IMG]
     
  15. Stunt101

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    DAMN! it'd be great for us...bosh williams and cook...wow
     
  16. Drake Remoray

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    Hi I'm new to the forum [​IMG] This is a great area to talk about the Raptors.

    What do you guys think of Johan Petro? I think he would be a great addition alongside Bosh because of his athleticism and potential. I atched him play in France earlier this year and he is really a very strong player.

    Here's some info on him (interview): http://www.hoopshype.com/interviews/petro_sierra.htm
    http://nbadraft.net/petrointerview.asp

    I think the Raptors should take Gerald Green with there first pick and Johan with there second in the first round.

    Both have incredible potential and could both be potential starters. I'm not sure if Johan will be more like a Stromile Swift (i've seen him play like this) or if he gets better with footwork and speed(and shot lol, I watched him practise and make every shot in an around the world drill then the next day miss numerous hook shots) a Kevin Garnett. In any event he is quite strong and athletic and would make more of an impact than Rafuel Arujo (who in my opinion is a good back up player, and will be reliable in this capacity, but not a starter).

    Green would be a goodSG/SF player and will gain alot of experience from a player like Jalen Rose. In any event I think, personally, he will be in his starting year at least as productive as Moe Petterson or Alvin Williams w/o a doubt. His addition would bring a great upgrade to the SG/SF position and make Moe Petterson a strong 2nd option.

    With there second round picks it would be interesting to see what would happen if the Raptors can get there hands on Julius Hodge and Luther Head. Both can/do play the 1-3 positions in college. Luther Head would be contained to the PG-SG position in the NBA (height). Hodge has the height to play all three. Realisticly though in the NBA, based on what I have watch (NCAA basketball and research), I think Luther Head with Raefer and Hodge would make an excellent PG combo. Luther would be excellent at directing a fast pace offense and has leadership skills. When he played at Manley H.S. he actually did play PG before shooting guard in his senior year and was quite good.

    Hodge is frequently called weak and not athletic but has the ability to run and offense extremely well. In the NBA I can see him buulking up quite a bit with a weight trainer. He would be an excellent member for the Raptors to run a set offense. He has an excellent head for the game and lead the Wolf Pack in scoring and rebounding in his Sophmore year. Throughout the course of this season he gained 22 pounds showing that he has the desire to the strength needed to play at the next level. The fact that he could rotate to the SG posiion of Small forward position only increases his value. However, I don't think he will be able to compete effectively at either SG or SF until he puts on more weight.


    So to summarize at think the Raptors should take [​IMG]

    7. Gerald Green
    16. Johan Petro

    2nd Round

    Julius Hodge
    Luther Head


    Future Raptors Line up?

    PG: Raefer(or Rafer, I've seen it spelt both ways so I'm not too sure) Alston
    SG:Jalen Rose
    Sf: Gerald Green (Ithink the 2 and 3 position will be interchangeable depending on who they are playing)
    PF:Chris Bosh
    C: Johan Petro

    Rafer maybe replaced with Luther Head or Julius Hodge within 1-2 years if not sooner depending on their development.

    As for signings etc. I really think that Milt and Donyell should leave. Milt is a really iffy player IMO and Donyell will command to much money for a bench player. Aaron Williams really hasn't shown a real reason why he should stay IMO. Pape Sow should get a 1 or 2 year ext. Omar Cook really shouldn't stick around, his offensive game is almost nonexistent and he has serious attitude problems. Bonner should come back, barring he demand an unreasonable amount of money.
     
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    I don't know if I'd take Johan Petro. It's interesting that you mention that he reminds you of Stromile Swift, because that's the comparison I've been making for the last year and a half. Not only does he play like Swift, but he doesn't play hard at all times and can be lazy, which fits Stromile Swift to a tee. I'd personally take Raymond Felton and Channing Frye over Gerald Green and Johan Petro, but that's just because I don't like to gamble. With Felton you have a guy who has the potential to be a great All-Star in the league, but no matter what you know that he'll most likely at least develop into a consistant starter. With Gerald Green, there's a higher risk involved. While he has the potential to be a great player, he also had the potential to be the next DeShawn Stevenson or Ndudi Ebi. He's skinny, supposidely has a bad work ethic, and will likely take a few years to develop. If the Raptors get Green, it won't really benefit them next season, and the same might be able to be said with Petro. Felton and Frye, however, are guys who will be instant contributers. Don't you remember having Tracy McGrady? The Raptors could spend another few years developing a great High School talent only to see him leave when he becomes a big time talent.

    PG - Raymond Felton
    SG - Morris Peterson
    SF - Jalen Rose
    PF - Chris Bosh
    C - Channing Frye/Rafael Araujo

    Not bad at all.

    By the way, welcome to the boards!
     
  18. Drunkballer

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    Channing Frye's game is too simaler to Rafael Araujo. The Raptors need a banger not someone who can come in and hit the mid range jumper.
     
  19. Got DWade?

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    we HAVE to take green if he's there, he has way to much potential to pass up on. and with our other pick I think jarret jack would be good (he's a pretty good PG, which is what we also need, and he's friends with CB4, which may give him more insentive to sign with us again)
     
  20. P.A.P.

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    To make the discussion easier, say Green was on the board at our pick (1st) and we did draft him, their is still a need for a PG. We then draft Jack with our next pick (16th?). Check the explanation above and reasoning

    PG: Jarret Jack/Rafer Alston/Omar Cook
    SG: Morris Peterson/Gerald Green
    SF: Jalen Rose/Eric Williams/Lamond Murray(Hoping for a buyout)
    PF: Chris Bosh/Matt Bonner(FA, I'm assuming we resign him)/Williams
    -C: Pape Sow/Hoffa/Woods/Williams

    Now the 2nd picks...There is basically no center worth drafting in the 2nd round, because there's much more talent at the other posistions. Personally, I would like to draft another swingman, because I have a feelin that Murray won't be here next year, and the same could be said for E-Dub. That would leave us with only Mo/Rose/Green. Hodge is a guy I would definitely look at, however, his performance in the NCAA Tournament has already raised his stock, so we might not be able to take him with our pick. I would go as far as trading 2 of our 3 2nd rounders (our first 2nd rounder and last 2nd rounder) for the rights to Julius Hodge if we do not get him at our pick. I'm that high on him. Although many of you may disagree with decision, I think it's worth the shot. Let's just hope Pape turns into a 10 and 8 guy next year and makes us forget about the center questions...
     

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