<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">asasasas: pleazs get green Dabigboshdog: no get felton DWade3: yeah felton</div> can't stop laughing at that. -- Lottery is at 8 PM on Tuesday, 1 hour before Game 2 of the Spurs-Suns series. I like it when they show the lottery results during the halftime of the playoff game, but they changed it this year. -- For now, assuming the draft order is what it is, their are many possible scenerio's. Here are a few that I came up with, that I see as a realisitic possibilities, and not based on what I want to happen. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><font size="1">Scenerio 1: 1st Pick- Gerald Green 2nd Pick- Jarret Jack Scenerio 2: Green is off the board 1st Pick- Raymond Felton 2nd Pick- Danny Granger/Antoine Wright/Rashad McCants/Hakim Warrick Scenerio 3: Green is off the board 1st Pick- Martell Webster 2nd Pick- Jarret Jack</font></div>
i think with our first pick if still available we need to pick chris taft. imagine him and bosh in the same frontcourt, we'de have one of the most athletic combos in the league. If tafts not available i'de take felton over green as sg is not a need position for us and felton is a solid player who could push rafer. with the 2nd pick i think we'll go after a guy like antoine wright or hakim harrick, sum1 who could eventually be come a great player but is more of a gamble
A lot of good scenarios out there. But if we look at last years draft Babcock seems to draft a bit by need. Unless we can find a taker on Alston and the 5 years he has left on his contract I don't think he will take a point with the first of the two. I would love to see Granger fall to us at the 16 spot but espn is saying that his stock is moving up and I would have to agree. Felton would be a great investment at the point but ONLY if we could move Alston. I would think that Babcock is gonna try and shore up the 2 spot, find a back up to Rose so then he can look to move him and his bloated salary. I don't think that he'll draft a big until the second round as he drafted Arujo last year and wants him to play, thus proving that he (Babcock) didn't make the wrong decision. So I would look at Babcock, barring any trades to look to shore up the 2 and 3 spots on the team. We have some depth yes, but IMO Mo Pete is better suited to a 6th man role but both he and Rose would provide some mentorship for whoever does get drafted. Personally I would like to see Babcock trade down and let one of these teams that has their eye on someone like Green or Felton trade up. That way we could still get some good help Granger/Wright/Webster. Webster might take a little longer to develop but I really like his game. Granger could step in and play some big minutes right away. I think that Babcock will be looking at Granger because of the direction the Raps are going. No nonsense, come to play and work hard. Why would we draft someone like Taft unless he thinks that Mitchell can work him into shape. But who knows with Babcock....we'll see!
I don't know why everyone doesn't want us to draft Taft. I know that at Pit his work ethic was questionable, but he was still there best player and put up solid numbers. If Mitchell can get him working hard (which I think he can), Then Taft has a very high ceiling with his great athletic ability (similiar to Bosh's). I agree that Taft is a bit of a risk, but i believe the pros outweigh the cons. He could develop into a future all star and him and bosh in the same frontcourt would be very hard to stop. I think Babcock should definetely take Taft if available, and if he isn't I'de go with either Felton (to push Rafer) or Deron Williams if available. With the 16th pick I hope Granger is available, but if not I'de take Sean May to give us a centre who actually knows how to play unlike Hoffa.
We got the 7th pick 1 milwaukee 2 atlanta 3 portland 5 charlotte 6 Utah 8 New York 9 Golden State 10 Lakers 11 Orlando 12 Clippers 13 charlotte (2) 14 Minnesota
Yup, Portland and Milwaukee had it good: 1) Milwaukee Bucks 2) Atlanta Hawks 3) Portland TrailBlazers 4) New Orleans Hornets 5) Charlotte Bobcats 6) Utah Jazz 7) Toronto Raptors 8) New York Knicks 9) Golden State Warriors 10) LA Lakers 11) Orland Magic 12) LA Clippers 13) Charlotte Bobcats [from Cleveland] 14) Minnesotta Timberwolves <u>Original Rankings</u> 1. Atlanta 13-69 25.0% 2. New Orleans 18-64 17.8% 3. Charlotte 18-64 17.7% 4. Utah 26-56 11.9% 5. Portland 27-55 8.8% 6. Milwaukee 30-52 6.3% 7. Toronto 33-49 3.6% 8. New York 33-49 3.5% 9. Golden State 34-48 1.4% 10. L.A. Lakers 34-48 1.4% 11. Orlando 36-46 0.8% 12. L.A. Clippers 37-45 0.7% 13. Cleveland* 42-40 0.6% 14. Minnesota 44-38 0.5%
Let me throw a name out there - Martynas Andiruskevicius. While it may have seemed like a very distant possibility in the past, it's seeming more and more likely after the lottery. With the possibility of Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Gerald Green, and Raymond Felton all being picked by the Hawks, Blazers, Bobcats, or Jazz before the Raptors get to step up to the plate, the Raptors hopes of getting a decent Point Guard or "the next McGrady" may be distant. With no Point Guards on the scene, they'll likely turn their focus to the Small Forward or Center positions. While some Raptor fans want to see them be patient with Hoffa, the reality of the situation is that he was a bad draft pick that was only made because the Raptors were desperate for a Center, which is exactly what they can wind up stealing this year through Andriuskevicius.
I doubt Ray Felton would be picked before 7th,, Martynas Andiruskevicius has a better chance to move up and be picked in top 5.
I am starting to hope more and more that we draft Granger. Then with the 16th I would like to see if Antoine Wright or Martell Webster are still around. These are guys that I personally would like to see the Raptors pick up. Let some other teams take risks on Taft, Andiruskevicius, Green. I don't want to see Babcock try and fill the 5 spot this year as aside from Bogut they all seam to be a little questionable. Servicable yes but I'd still like to see if Hoffa made any strides. As the season starts if he hasn't actively try and acquire Magloire from N.O.
^I agree with Jones here. I was going to actually post last night that I think that Granger would be a great pick for us at the 7th spot. I do not want to take a chance on a European project and Granger seems like he will be more ready for the NBA than the rest. He will not be a star in this league but I do think that he can be a solid player and a good compliment to Bosh. Even at the 16th pick we can have viable options available to us but this year I think that Granger could be the player we really need. If Green, Felton, Williams are not available we must seriously take a look at this guy with our first pick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I doubt Ray Felton would be picked before 7th,, Martynas Andiruskevicius has a better chance to move up and be picked in top 5.</div> Actually, once you evaluate every team's new draft position, you'll see that it's very likely that Felton goes before the Raptors pick. If the Hornets take Gerald Green, then the Bobcats will take Deron Williams, which means the Jazz will probably take Andriuskevicius or Felton. As for taking Danny Granger, I'd take him there myself as well, but I haven't seen that the Raptors management has expressed any interest in drafting him that high. From what I've read, they've had their heart set on Deron Williams, Raymond Felton, or Gerald Green, and since it looks like they're not going to get any of them, Martynas Andriuskevicius may very well be their man. He's the best available prospect and he fits a team need. Let's face it, someone has to draft these European kids. In every team forum I've talked about the draft in, they all say that they don't want Andriuskevicius, Vazquez, or Splitter. However, the reality of the situation is that they're all likely lottery picks.
^I agree. Also Babcock is not known as someone doing a move that should be made, but rather a move that is totally illogical. But I also think that drafting a centre is something that Bab's wants to stay away from this year. He has a tremendous ego and does not want it to be known that last years drafting of Araujo was a complete mistake (which it was of course). I hope he goes with the logical choice here in Granger. IMO The worst that can happen with Granger is that he doesn't become a star. But then again I'm all for picking safely rather than taking the big gamble.
Draft on Talent not on Potential is good...Making the move that should be made would be a good idea this year Babs
No, not Andriuskevicius. He might be good for the future, but I want someone that can atleast produce a little right now, not some Darko business. If the Hornets elect to draft Green over Williams, then the Bobcats would likely to Williams or Felton, and with the next pick, Utah would take either remaining PG from the two or Andriuskevicius. If they do take a PG, I would rather get someone like Granger or Webster. With Webster, you have a better feeling that he'll produce much more than Andriuskevicius. Drafting a Webster or a Granger won't hurt because it isn't as big as a gamble on big like Andriuskevicius.
If Babcocks certain Granger is safe till the 10th or so, trade down and draft him. If he's not certain, use the 7th on him. This guy is legit, and he's going to provide the Raps with everything they've been looking for in a 3. He can make an immediate impact and his game is versatile. The Hoffa situation wouldnt scare me away from Granger at 7th. Its possible he'll be there for the 16th and if Babcock is reasonably sure that he will be, FOR SURE take him with the second pick. In that case i'd suggest Felton 7th and Granger 16th. Lets assume thought that trade down or not the Raps grab Granger with the first, i'd suggest Rashad Mccants with the 16th. His stock has moved down out of the top 10, but i think this is one of the guys that can overcome his size and play SG at 6-3. The only players i like for the Raptors, in no order are: Granger Jack Felton Mccants Webster Graham Not sold on Green, and i wouldnt take him over Granger at the 7 unless i knew Granger would be around for 16th, or i traded up
OMG Milwaukee. THat's not fair, man. they were ONE damn spot ahead of us. see, if we'd tanked the rest of the season we could have had a chance of getting the first pick too. damn. lol did you see matt bonner's reaction when we got seventh. he looked relieved but disappointed at the same time.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If Babcocks certain Granger is safe till the 10th or so, trade down and draft him. If he's not certain, use the 7th on him. This guy is legit, and he's going to provide the Raps with everything they've been looking for in a 3. He can make an immediate impact and his game is versatile. The Hoffa situation wouldnt scare me away from Granger at 7th. Its possible he'll be there for the 16th and if Babcock is reasonably sure that he will be, FOR SURE take him with the second pick. In that case i'd suggest Felton 7th and Granger 16th.</div> Granger's stock is pretty high right now (and rightly so). Like you said, teams want a safe pick, and barring injuries, Granger is a pretty safe. He brings it all to the table: athletecism, defense, shot blocking, perimeter shooting, etc. I said before that if Granger played on North Carolina or Duke and teams weren't scared by that "injury prone" label, then Granger would be a top three pick, and I still stand by that. With that said, I don't think the Raptors will be able to take Granger anywhere else but where they are with the #7 pick, because the Warriors who have the #9 pick are also in contention for Granger. So you'll lose Granger to the Warriors by trading down, unless you trade to #8, which doesn't make much sense.
