Learn your history. You have access to the same search engines I do. And as smart as you are, you really should know. That wasn't put on our money until 1956.
Laws are based on religion, though. Religion sets forth a code of moral authority. Without that moral authority, we are nothing more than savages.
umm, Learn your history indeed! "In 1954, in response to the Communist threat of the times, President Eisenhower encouraged Congress to add the words "under God," creating the 31-word pledge we say today. " http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm Another one of Eisenhower"s examples of mindlessness. The pledge is suppose to be a bringing together moment, for people of a country created of individual states, not pledge to God. "IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin." "The use of IN GOD WE TRUST has not been uninterrupted. The motto disappeared from the five-cent coin in 1883, and did not reappear until production of the Jefferson nickel began in 1938" https://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages/in-god-we-trust.aspx
Actually there has not been a Christian religion in centuries. Many different Churches devoted to the God of Abraham, but with a wide range of beliefs, some closer to the Torah, and some closer to the New testament. Most of the founding father did belong to one of these different Churches. One Founder, often touted as critical of religion, Thomas Jefferson wrote what is known as the Jefferson Bible. While calling him a Diest might be some what accurate, I think, perhaps even a Pantheist, saying a the man wasn't a Christian, is purely speculation. It doesn't seem to me that a man would rearrange the Bible more to his liking and not have some Christian leanings. From the site dviss referenced; "In short, while America did not have a Christian Founding in the sense of creating a theocracy, its Founding was deeply shaped by Christian moral truths" This seems to be very accurate.
Where my mind was going with this tangent, is that I think religion and politics need to be completely exclusive of one another....it is being abused by right wing finatics, to create laws based on religious beliefs. Most of the laws Pence enacted as governor of Indiana were because he thought homosexuality and abortions were wrong because of his religious beliefs....like Tim Kaine said, not that he's the best to quote, but hey, during the vice presidential debate, he talked about how he didn't want to have anyone put to death while he was Governor of Virginia because his religion is against the death penalty ( though I thought Catholics loved that stuff) anway, he allowed it to happen because it's the law, and the law and his religion are two separate things.
Well religion and politics have always been hand in hand. This country was the first to insist (The First Amendment's Establishment Clause) that we not use any specific religion over others in making law. Well trying to protect ones religious freedom is not the same as imposing religious beliefs. I guess I don't know what grievance to homosexuality causes you trouble. But many people feel abortion is the same as murder which is not legal. I can't support this view, because I think it is a worse crime to force a woman to have a child she does not want nor intend to care for as required to create a human being. Not only is the crime worse, it does not work even with all the best intentions. It seems the evidence is all around us. I heard him says this and I thought it wrong. I did not know Catholics were against the death penalty.
I know they've been hand in hand. That's the problem. Creating laws based on any religion is imposing those beliefs or that religion on others. Laws like the once Pence enacted are not in trying to protect his religious beliefs, but in trying to impose them on others, who may no believe in or practice his religion. In regards to homosexuality, while I am not homosexual, or do I believe in it, it's not my right or anyone else's to judge those who are. I say as long as it is not hurting others, let people do what they will do. Politicians who follow Christianity need to stop being hipocrits...the very book from which they preach says not to judge lest thee themselves be judged. I am actually personally against abortion, I don't believe in it. I think people, both men and women should be responsible during sex. If you don't want a kid use protection on both sides. I understand there are situations, like per say a woman getting raped and becoming impregnated by her rapist. It's not her fault, and its understandable that she probably doesn't want a rapists baby...maybe give it up for adoption...but hey that's the womans right not mine. I was wondering about cathlotics too. I thought they liked seeing bad people burn in hell.
I guess I don't know the law you have in mind. I am with you sir. Yes again. Although I think it would help a man walk the line in not judging if we were not force to hear what we would prefer not to hear. I never ask about a persons preference, and I prefer not to be told. Me too. The idea is appalling. True enough. It also should have been left to the States and let people vote with their feet. Or an actual Constitutional amendment passed. The court ruling is utter bullshit, contrived and makes a mockery of the court.
