There were two conference calls held this week -- Tuesday and Thursday -- without knowledge of NBPA officials, sources tell Y!
Calls included several All-Stars. One source on calls told Y!: "We're beyond frustrated with concessions that have already been made."
Woj Here was theme: If NBPA drops below 52% on BRI, and/or remaining system issues go league's way, then this will become movement to decertify.
Y! Sources: Frustrated with progress of labor talks, players hold secret conference calls on union decertification.
Two sources confirm @WojYahooNBA report that approx 50 players had conference call w/ antitrust attorney 2 discuss decertification today.
What is stopping the players from finding a new set of owners for a new league? This is how the ABA was born. It competed with the NBA and drove salaries way up. It helped players and hurt NBA owners. Lower ticket prices and more beer would easily prevent that from happening.
or if they decetify and all contracts are void what's stopping the owners from starting a new league, they own the organizations and arenas or arena leases and TV deals, I think the owners would have a much better chance then the players
Paul pierce has done the unthinkable. He's made me glad the Celtics lost the last title to the lakers.
Coon had an ESPN article today about decertification. While he seems firmly on the players' side in this and other musings, I don't know if some things I'm not understanding are b/c I'm messed up or he's not telling the whole story. For instance: But aren't they also going to get all of the demands of their "nuclear option?" I mean, they lose protections. But the NBA then becomes a league of non-guaranteed contracts, right? I mean, if my boss can fire me at will, who's to say that PA couldn't just, for instance, fire Roy and not pay a dime of his contract further? There's a lot of protection in that, it seems, and a lot of risk for players. What am I missing? Additionally, the draft goes away as well, right? We go back to the old "whoever's got the cash gets the players" rule. No mandate of 12 players per team. If you want to sign 7 stars and let them run all game (and bring Don Nelson to coach) you can. No trades without players' consent, I would imagine. Anything else? The players have already lost more money over the course of a 6-year CBA than if they'd agreed to 50-50 and started the season on time. What "other options" do the players have to regain that? Stern's already said that the league's offer isn't going up.
Couldn't the NBA then in turn issue bans on any player they want? That would prevent owners like Cuban and PA from getting any of them. In reality, if there were no union, Stern and the NBA could say ok, Lebron James is not allowed to play in our league. The NBA could then put in a salary structure that was perminent so when the players started up another league....that will fail.....they would then come back into the NBA wiyh extremely reduced salaries
A player could still have guaranteed contracts if the owner and player agreed to it when signing the deal. Coaches and management are often given guaranteed contracts and obviously they arn't part of the union or current CBA. However, the players contracts wouldn't automatically become fully guaranteed during a season as often they currently do.
I can see why the mega-zillionaire players might want to decertify -- then it's every man for himself. Can someone explain how decertification helps the average Joe player?
The issue is that the owner doesn't HAVE to guarantee a contract. In a world where owners can't set min/max salaries or caps, it's also a world where James Dolan can fire Eddy Curry and have unemployment pay him to get fat.
I always hated Michael Jordan: As about a million people have pointed out, Jordan the player was the person who told owner Abe Pollin "if you can't afford it sell your team" in the last lockout.
Burn it down, and let something new rise from the ashes. The NBA is now more entertaining as a courtroom drama than as an on-the-court drama.
Owners don't currently have to give players guaranteed deals either, they could have left the last few years of Eddy Currys contract unguaranteed and been able to cut his ass. The dumbass Knicks did the sign and trade and gave him a fully guaranteed long term deal. The owners were fighting to never allow any fully guaranteed deals. Players want to keep the current system where it's a part of the contract bargaining process if a deal is fully, partially, or non-guaranteed. If there wasn't a CBA there would still be fully, partially, or non-guaranteed deals same as the last CBA.
