The OFFICIAL Stampede vs Vipers Game Thread 1/3/14.......

It's okay because 1) LeBron is not their point guard, and 2) LeBron actually plays at a very high level in other areas of his game.

Mo Williams has a below average PER. He is shooting a very poor percentage from the field. He is averaging nearly a 2-1 assist to turnover ratio, which is not very good for a point guard. He dribbles waaaaay too much, and his defense is sub-par. Put all that together and no, I'm not willing to overlook turnovers from Mo Williams, but I am willing to overlook turnovers from LeBron James.

 

Vipers can't make a shot all of a sudden. Just daring the Stampede to win.

 

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How about we stay away from the personal attacks?

 

Agreed. Most of his mistakes seemed to come when he was getting tired toward the end of his segments in the game. Hopeful he has the chance to get his fitness back in limited minutes once he returns.

 

You could really tell the difference when he was starting to get gassed.

 

A few realities I'd like you to consider:
Turnovers are bad.
Turnover happen.
Mo is Blazer.
The Blazers have the most wins in the NBA.

 

Jackson looks like a guy you can bring up!

But as I looked I to it, his rights are owned by the Pelicans.

A spark off the bench guy.

 

This just shows me that you can't formulate an actual argument to counter my position.

We're 26-7. That's awesome. I'm so happy that the team is winning. Our bench still isn't very good, and Mo Williams is, by proxy, not very good.

 

Noone knows what position LeBron plays...he is their pt guard whenever he wants to be. Great player, sure. We're not arguing about that. It's that valuable players often have high turnover rates. Kobe does too. Players have shooting slumps. Mo just had one. Like I said, I've got his back, he's a Blazer on one of the best Blazer teams I've seen since 77-78. Stotts calls him the best backup pt guard in the NBA and sorry Nate, Stotts trumps your opinion in my view.

 

lol . . . it goes right along with the music playing during the game and watching the game from a youtube link.

 

He reminds me a bit of Isaiah Thomas on the Kings.

 

OTOH, Mo gets an assist every 5 minutes, while Dame only gets one every 6 minutes.

 

every thread I've read here gets hijacked...nothing new there

 

"You're the only one who's been flipping out for well over a month, who I also haven't ignored for being an attention seeking troll that doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to talking basketball."

If you are referring to this as a personal attack, you should have someone read it out loud to you.

 

Something about this game is so entertaining that it's a problem throwing a little Mo debate into it?

 

anyone can formulate an argument...what we shouldn't do here is tell others what they "can't do"

 

I think your missing the big picture Nate is conveying. He isn't necessarily saying LeBron gets a pass regarding his turnovers, but his overall offensive and defensive production on the floor severely outweighs how many turnovers he has per game. Turnovers are essentially no more than a shoulder shrug in his case.

Comparing turnovers between Mo and Lebron is in Mo's favor has I'm sure LeBron touches the ball much more than Mo every game. Thus, creating more possible turnovers committed by LeBron.

 

I can "formulate", I have "formulated", you don't agree. Carry on complaining about Mo every single day.