<div class="quote_poster">Brian Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm sorry, I don't really understand, but aren't Symbiote and Venom the same? I haven't seen the movie yet btw</div> Well as far as I know, the Symbiote is the "black suit/entity" in general whereas Venom is a result of how the suit behaves on Eddie Brock's body.
Yea, Venom is the persona that Eddie Brock assumes when he bonds with the symbiote. That's why, when Spiderman had the suit on, he didn't call himself Venom. Anyways, I plan to watch it tomorrow or the day after. Just reading through the reviews, I kind of guessed that the whole "too many storylines/characters" things would be a problem earlier. I remember watching the review and wondering about how they could fit Sandman, Green Goblin, and Venom into a single movie. The symbiote storyline alone deserves its own movie. btw, I blame some of this to the fact that they decided to make the Green Goblin the first villain. He's an interesting character, but both he and the Jackal have the most repetitive storylines in the comics. Just a long series of deaths, revivals, clones, and more deaths.
Reportedly, Tobey Maguire was offered $20 million for Spiderman 4. He said he'd do it if Raimi was on board (the director). If they do a Spiderman 4, It should focus on the Lizard (Dr. Conners). That'd be a great storyline. Especially with the teacher/student connection between Conners and Peter. Stan Lee and Avi Arad want to do a 4,5, and 6. Even if they have to re-cast. I'll probably see the movie in theater again most likely, without screaming people so I can really pay attention. Chut, it's a good movie for action and stuff, but Raimi just took in too much. He didn't want to do Venom at first, but there was too much pressure on him to incorporate Venom, so he did. BTW, The only time I find Kirsten Dunst incredibly attractive is as Mary Jane. "Go Get Em Tiger" sends shivers down my spine!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mamba:</div><div class="quote_post">Chut, it's a good movie for action and stuff, but Raimi just took in too much. He didn't want to do Venom at first, but there was too much pressure on him to incorporate Venom, so he did. </div> They're just setting him up for failure by doing that, IMO. Kind of reminds me of all the Batman movies after Batman Returns, where they stuck in two random villains for no apparent reason. If I did the movies, I would have put either the Lizard or Doc Ock in the 1st movie (to get that teacher-student storyline), the Kingpin in the 2nd movie (maybe with the Black Cat), the symbiotes in the 3rd movie, and I'd do the Green Goblin in the final one. I can't wait until I see it though. I want to form my own opinion on it.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They're just setting him up for failure by doing that, IMO. Kind of reminds me of all the Batman movies after Batman Returns, where they stuck in two random villains for no apparent reason. If I did the movies, I would have put either the Lizard or Doc Ock in the 1st movie (to get that teacher-student storyline), the Kingpin in the 2nd movie (maybe with the Black Cat), the symbiotes in the 3rd movie, and I'd do the Green Goblin in the final one. I can't wait until I see it though. I want to form my own opinion on it.</div> IMO, the symbiote foes are the most interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing them again in future films.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">2>3>1 Harry's suit was ridiculously laughable. What a joke. The corny tag team fighting made me think WWE wrote the script. The movie was good, no doubt but wasn't anything that it was hyped to be. I love the series, too. Spiderman/Venom/Symbiote angle was absolutely amazing. Sandman and Harry ruined it, really. Another flaw was it was forced. There was way too much cut into the movie. There was so much crap they could've left out, it didn't really flow. They didn't really develop the characters. All in all, I'm kind of disappointed, I expected a lot more. At times, I felt like I was watching the Power Rangers movie (Harry), a snow boarding show (Harry), yet at times, I felt like I was watching an amazing movie (Spiderman/Venom).7/10</div> I figured that actually, I'll take your word for it and definitely wait for the DVD to rent.
Thanks for the info guys. I knew about Venom, but I didn't know a thing about Symbiote, so I did an image search and it looked exactly like Venom. Anyways, I plan on seeing this next Saturday/Sunday
I'm actually hoping for either the Lizard or maybe even Carnage for the next one. In the comics, there was a point where Carnage and Venom were both after Spidey, so I'd love to see them attempt that.
I thought Venom and Spiderman teamed up to beat Carnage. I'm not really interested in the lizard story, it's too cliche'. Good person, experiment goes wrong, the good person ends up dying anyway. Based off this movie I can definitely see them doing a Carnage spinoff, but I don't know. This movie was very ehhhh.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I thought Venom and Spiderman teamed up to beat Carnage. </div> Yeah they did, but I'm pretty sure it was Venom & Carnage vs Spiderman at first. Venom ended up switching sides. Still haven't seen it, but I'm downloading it. Hope it's good quality.
The movie was really good. Although for spiderman 4 as Mamba said, that really would be a good story line to have Lizard Man.
In the cartoons, I loved the Kraven, Chameleon and Doc Oc angles. Carnage in a movie would be amazing, hopefully they put him in one of the movies.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">BTW, The only time I find Kirsten Dunst incredibly attractive is as Mary Jane. "Go Get Em Tiger" sends shivers down my spine!</div> I do not find her attractive at all. Spidey 3 really sealed it for me.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I like how they did Venom, they just didn't give him enough time.</div> That was my issue with the movie, they crammed too much into it. They could have made Spidey 3 and 4 with just those characters.
Carnage.....in Spiderman 4!!? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When Spider-Man 3 was being prepped Sam Raimi and Columbia Pictures tried to hold the announcement of Venom for as long as they possibly could... confirming the news just before Comic Con in July of 2006. But here we are, the day Spider-Man 3 hits theaters, and your good pal here has the skinny on who you will see in Spider-Man 4 - with or without Sam Raimi (hater of all things symbiotic). Before I hit you with the news, let me make it clear that we got this news from a 100% reliable source working on the film. He's the one who told us Venom was the villain in Spidey 3 and nobody believed us. So here you have it, the biggest announcement of 2008... NOW! Our regular scooper tells FreezeDriedMovies that plans are underway for Spider-Man 4, which were (obviously) set up in the third film. In the third entry, Dr. Curt Connors (played by Dylan Baker) looks at a piece of symbiote with Peter Parker. The movie then travels along it's path without another mention of that "piece" of symbiote. This is the set up for Spider-Man 4 where that small piece of alien symbiote becomes CARNAGE. Yes Cletus Kasady is coming to the big screen, one of Spider-Man most horrifying and evil villains. Not only with Parker have to deal with the red lean mean killing machine, but Connors is set to become the long awaited LIZARD! these two villains have all been CONFIRMED for Spider-Man 4. There is talk of the Black Cat making her first appearance, but that's all but official.</div> Source I don't know if this is a reliable source, but if the news is true, then it's going to be crazy. I love Carnage, so I hope the <u>whole</u> movie will be based on him.
