The pathetic shower of undeserving praise and sympathy also known as Carmelo Anthony's return

Re: The pathetic shower of undeserving praise and sympathy also known as Carmelo Anthony's return

Yeah how did Carmelo Anthony ruin our playoff run? Like BALLAHOLLIc said, we are 4 1/2 games back from the North West Division title. Plus we got Iverson while he was gone and he has helped us keep us in the playoff run.We are making the playoff's, whether you haters like it or not. And Yeah, we do have a soft side in a way. doesn't most fans?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PureMvp @ Jan 23 2007, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Any star player of a team, that comes back after missing for 10+ Games. In this case 15 games. Is going to get a standing ovation. NBA is a business, and you kids are forgetting that. Melo probably had the PA announcer write that up, to get his market back up, to his fans. It shows loyalty to team, to the state, and to the city. This was even elaborated to be such a higher return, because it was possibly one of the best duos of our time on paper. so instead of dissing on Melo, for the cheesy write up. It was a business move.</div>That's what I said in the other thread after Mob locked it.Tony, you can't say that Ben Wallace started the fight. He was apart of the fight, but it's your opinion that Ben started it. I know that Big Ben wouldn't have been suspended at all had Artest not lied on that fricken announcer table. But another topic, another time.Don't forget that teammates bond and stick up for one another. I know Melo and Nate took it too far that night, but honestly, if there was a quarrel on my team, I would be there to help my teammate.

 

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The game has changed a lot. In the eighties, what Carmelo did wouldn't even warrant a suspension, and if it did it wouldn't be more than a game. Unfortunately there isn't much history to base it on since all the big suspensions besides Kermit's have been in the last ten years and few suspensions this big have featured a star player returning to their team.What did Indy fans do when JO came back last season? Not a rhetorical question, I'm curious. That's probably the most similar situation to this that's happened; they socked a dude dead on in the face with little provocation and missed 15 games.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Tony, you can't say that Ben Wallace started the fight. He was apart of the fight, but it's your opinion that Ben started it. I know that Big Ben wouldn't have been suspended at all had Artest not lied on that fricken announcer table. But another topic, another time.</div>I'm not saying he's the sole person to blame for the entire brawl, but everything has to start somewhere. Had Ben Wallace never pushed Ron Artest then the fight would have never happened. You can make the case for Artest's semi hard foul as well but I don't think it was intentional.

 

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Maybe it was. They had bad blood before the brawl too. Artest has a lot of evil brain cells that take over his body and that creates tirades. Besides, Piston fans should embrace Wallace anyway, he was trying to save their asses.

 

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I understand your point Mobruler, if it were Michael Redd coming back I would not cheer for him. But you can say he did his time, he's learned and matured and it's time to move on. I really can't blame Nuggets fans for welcoming him back like that...many of them have high hopes for Anthony/Iverson.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 24 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How did he ruin our playoff run? We're still going to make the playoffs either way, we're only 4 ? games back from the North West Division title. He made a mistake and it happens, NBA Hall of Famers have done similar or worse things and people forgive and forget. You make it seem like he's the only one to get suspended.</div>Well I meant the run they had at the time, he screwed up the chemistry, pushed them to go for AI more than they should've and now things are almost guaranteedly going to get messy later on.How many games was MJ suspended on his career? Wilt? What HOFers are you talking about?No, he wasn't the only one suspended, but he was the only one worth anything. JR isn't consistent, Nate and whatever other garbage was suspended for the knicks aren't big names. That's another point on the brawl. When you're a star you can't say 'well nene got suspended a game too', because that proves you're stupid. Melo's at least a level above all the other suspended players, but he's still just as immature.The whole brawl is stupid. The NBA players are some of the most spoiled, childish pieces of sh*t on the planet. The NBA is literally their employer. If any of us fought, we'd probably get fired. These guys get 15 games max and are back making their millions 3 weeks later. Grow up and earn that money.fun fact that I just found out: melo was born 1 day and 5 years before me.

 

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[quote name='Mobruler' post='270141' date='Jan 23 2007, 06:09 PM']Is anyone else a little taken aback by the aura surronding Carmelo's return? Maybe it was the over-joyed "He's baaaaack!" from the Denver PA announcer during Carmelo's introduction. Or how the crowd had their arms wide open and seemed almost sympathetic of his hiatus. It could be how Carmelo seems to think he can insult the intelligence of the Denver crowd by having his PR write up a cheesy apology letter in hopes of having everyone forget what he did and somehow love him more... and somehow it worked. It is what it is and this moment should not have ever been celebrated because it should not of ever happened. Carmelo should have shut up, the PA announcer should have shut up, and the fans should have smartened up. He should have come back with his tail between his legs until it blew over. Instead he almost seems victimized. He punched another player in the face and cost the Nuggets games in return. Why are people associated with the Nuggets naive enough to celebrate the end of the punishment given to their player who made a complete lapse in judgement and totally disregarded the well-being of the city and the team.Durr?[/quote]It is called support. He knows he shouldn't have done it. What is wrong with wanting to move on? You think 'Melo wants to be remembered by this? of course not, and Denver just wants to see him and AI play. Have you ever seen a player come back from a long suspension with the stadium filled with boos? [quote name='Trail_Blazer' post='270174' date='Jan 23 2007, 06:37 PM']Playa pretty much summed it up right there.Unfortunately it's true, I totally agree with everything you said Mobruler, but that's the reality of it. I think Anthony's an over-rated gutless piece of sh*t, but I guess the majority of Denver would disagree with me.[/quote]Overrated? Are you talking about the same Carmelo Anthony that got snubbed of the ASG last year and is leading the league in scoring because last I checked he isn't on ESPN every 10 minutes be it for a commercial or them just worshiping him (LeBron James). I am not saying he is overrated, but until I see Carmelo Anthony getting that attention I won't even think about calling him that.[quote name='nykfan4life' post='270231' date='Jan 23 2007, 07:23 PM']scumbag aka carmelo anthony. what a bunch of ignorant unclassy denver fans. that is so pathetic how they give this man praise like he was coming back from a serious injury. he came back from sucker punching a player and then running away like a little sissy girl.[/quote]And the Knicks fans aren't un-classy? After the fight when the Nuggets went into the locker, what did they do; say "good game guys, get past that fight, it was just a little scuff up!" no, they were calling them any name you could think of, throwing food and drinks on them, and much more. Very classy. Seriously, when a Knicks fan says that wow. [quote name='Mobruler' post='270386' date='Jan 23 2007, 08:31 PM']If Chauncey decked some guy and cost us a handful of games by getting suspended for a month in a playoff hopeful season, I'd be pretty pissed and wouldn't be glorifying him when he returned.[/quote]That is just you. I can bet you almost everybody in the stadium would.[quote name='Mobruler' post='270474' date='Jan 23 2007, 09:28 PM']If the NBA opened a franchise in Bethlehem, and the Bethlehem Stars drafted Jesus with the #1 overall pick to be the star player in his hometown... and he decked some dude and missed 36 days of action and cost his team a handful of games... I wouldn't expect him to get a standing ovation when he returned much less a reach-around from the PA announcer.For the record I thought the applause Ben Wallace got after his return from the brawl was innappropriate. With Ron Artest decking fans (for whatever reason) the feeling around here shared by many was that Ben Wallace was protecting the Pistons fans, so-to-speak. I think there are alot of intangibles in that which make it an unfair comparison.[/quote]Jesus and 'Melo? Come on now get real.Well if you say the Nuggets fans are dumb for cheering 'Melo, then Pistons have to be considered that also for cheering Wallace.[quote name='Mobruler' post='270687' date='Jan 24 2007, 05:30 AM']People in Denver didn't expect a playoff bound season?[/quote]We do. If he were to get suspended, this was the best time for him too. Gives us enough time to regroup and get a good playoff seed.[quote name='Ginger Jesus' post='271375' date='Jan 24 2007, 09:58 PM']Well I meant the run they had at the time, he screwed up the chemistry, pushed them to go for AI more than they should've and now things are almost guaranteedly going to get messy later on.No, he wasn't the only one suspended, but he was the only one worth anything. JR isn't consistent, Nate and whatever other garbage was suspended for the knicks aren't big names. That's another point on the brawl. When you're a star you can't say 'well nene got suspended a game too', because that proves you're stupid. Melo's at least a level above all the other suspended players, but he's still just as immature.[/quote]I am so sick of people saying that. They will do fine together, AI wants to win, so does 'Melo, they are willing to give up a good stat sheet to good so damn it isn't like AI is going to complain because he wants to average 30 ppg so him and 'Melo can be in the 30/30 club. If you think something is going to happen, who will speak out and about what?JR is a big key to our team. He was important. We played much better with him. If anything, this brawl matured 'Melo. Nothing like this will happen again.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well I meant the run they had at the time, he screwed up the chemistry, pushed them to go for AI more than they should've and now things are almost guaranteedly going to get messy later on.How many games was MJ suspended on his career? Wilt? What HOFers are you talking about?</div>How are things going to get messy later on, can you predict the future?For the record, Michael Jordan has been suspended a few times. The most notable ones are for fighting with Reggie Miller and bumping a referee. Should we make a list of Hall of Famers or future Hall of Famers who have been involved in on court fights?Michael JordanKobe BryantReggie MillerShaquille O'nealCharles BarkleyDennis RodmanBen WallaceAllen IversonWillis Reed Kareem Abdul-JabbarJulius Erving Larry BirdThe list could go on forever.

 

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The Chokeboth still considered some of the greatest ever...

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 23 2007, 10:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What do you expect them to do, sit in silence? It's all a confidence booster, when your out of basketball for 36 days you need a standing ovation like that. Nuggets fans finally have something to be happy about with Iverson and Carmelo. He's our franchise player and they are going to support him no matter what he does. Their so used to losing, they are going to get excited about small things. We had 13 straight losing seasons before Carmelo Anthony arrived, he is our savior and everybody in Denver knows it.There isn't a thing wrong with it, their happy to have a winning team again. You need to stop finding excuses to hate on this team, because you're logic isn't valid. I guarantee if Chauncey Billups came back from a 15 game suspension and your team went 7-8 during that stretch that you would be cheering him on as well. Obviously, that's hypothetical.I completely disagree with you here, how can you as a Nuggets fan say that Carmelo is better than Lebron James of Dwyane Wade? He will never be on the same level as Lebron James as long as he is in the league, as much as I support Carmelo. I admit that...</div>^^^ Why are you saying never? Never say never man you never know.And this is his home town they will cheer damn why are people surprised?But Yeah Melo is deff underrated VERY underrated. And I actually don't think he is that much away from Lebron/Wade as some make it sound. He is not better then Lebron for sure, but he is not that far from them either.(BALLAHOLLIC) Allen Iverson been on a <u>COURT</u> fight? When?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>(BALLAHOLLIC) Allen Iverson been on a COURT fight? When?</div>I meant to edit Iverson off my list, I thought the fight he got into with Dennis Rodman awhile back was worse than what it was. After I watched the film again, I realized it wasn't really much of a fight, just Iverson pushing Rodman around.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 27 2007, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I meant to edit Iverson off my list, I thought the fight he got into with Dennis Rodman awhile back was worse than what it was. After I watched the film again, I realized it wasn't really much of a fight, just Iverson pushing Rodman around.</div>Ow aight just to let you know you still did not edit I think you still have him on the list. lol

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mobruler @ Jan 23 2007, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the NBA opened a franchise in Bethlehem, and the Bethlehem Stars drafted Jesus with the #1 overall pick to be the star player in his hometown... and he decked some dude and missed 36 days of action and cost his team a handful of games... I wouldn't expect him to get a standing ovation when he returned much less a reach-around from the PA announcer.For the record I thought the applause Ben Wallace got after his return from the brawl was innappropriate. With Ron Artest decking fans (for whatever reason) the feeling around here shared by many was that Ben Wallace was protecting the Pistons fans, so-to-speak. I think there are alot of intangibles in that which make it an unfair comparison.</div>Bethlehem stars, wtf are you talking about? This is the <u>NBA</u> Now some of us might not agree but with players being embraced but face it, face it or not, hes there key to a championship team whether you like it or not, its better to clap for a convicted felon as you implicate him than lose your playoff chances.