yeah, anyways heres the last fact.point forwards requires a lot of playmaking coming from the paint/ back to the basketOdom and LeBron do that.Odom in the post LeBron just drives induring his magic days he still wasn't considered one. this is not even an insult to T-Mac.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah dude you don't seem to understand what a fact is. All that paragraph says is that you don't think T-Mac runs the Rockets offense. That's called an opinion. Your not giving any actual facts to support that opinion.</div>Bingo.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>wow, dude I'm really tired of this.assists mean playmaking abilities.That just shows T-Mac is a better playmaker.honestly, all of you guys are stubborn seeing the fact you can't handle that T-Mac is not a point forward.</div>True, Assists do mean playmaking abilities. And playmakers do mange to handle the ball most of the time correct? TMac is the playmaker for the Rockets and handles the offense. And if you don't believe in that, why do you see the majority of the time TMac handling the ball more then Rafer and dishing it to Yao(and most cases, the plays are meant for Yao) or any other player that has a open shot and such? Because TMac knows how to handle the offense, he can run it. Sure Rafer can do it too, but he mostly tries to create a shot for himself.
I see rafer creating for others often in his raptor and heat days.He does it in houston sometimes too. Rafer is the primary ball-handler.At least we agree on something.no, not all playmakers have the ball in there hand a lot.Dirk and Josh Howard are playmakers as well and so is Paul Pierce.They are not the primary ball-handler though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I see rafer creating for others often in his raptor and heat days.He does it in houston sometimes too. Rafer is the primary ball-handler.At least we agree on something.</div>Yeah, obviously for his Raptor days, he was the primary PG for them and was the only legit PG to handle the ball and create for them. But this is Houston now, TMac is the primary ball-handler, he can create better then Alston, he's the better playmaker. And that's why JVG put TMac as the the primary ball-handler, because of those things. Like I said, Rafer can do it too, but not enough(Because he tries to create for himself), and not as good as TMac.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I see rafer creating for others often in his raptor and heat days.He does it in houston sometimes too. Rafer is the primary ball-handler.At least we agree on something.no, not all playmakers have the ball in there hand a lot.Dirk and Josh Howard are playmakers as well and so is Paul Pierce.They are not the primary ball-handler though.</div>But in Houston, it's a different situation. TMac is the better playmaker then Alston, he's not a better handler but he tries to look for his teammates first and create plays a lot more better then Alston can.
the primary ball-handling I still believe rafer is it though.But primary playmaker its T-Mac at JVG's system its probably gonna change with Rick Adelman.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the primary ball-handling I still believe rafer is it though.But primary playmaker its T-Mac at JVG's system its probably gonna change with Rick Adelman.</div>But look at the games dude, JVG's system used TMac as the ball-handler mainly to get it downlow to Yao.But under Adelman's system things will change because his system will be primarily to get TMac easy shots. It can either be Alston or Mike James handling the ball next season. Or...Aaron Brooks :shifty2:
Alston, Alston is my man.I wanted JVG to leave due to him not giving Alston enough responsiblities.his only job is to be the primary ball-handler that is debatable but at this moment t-mac isn't really a point forward.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>kobetmac whoever, I'm still waiting on an answer.</div>I'll debate you.But I'm just saying don't expect me to be on ballworld everyday.
I still think TMac is a point forward and I believe many people would agree. Due to the fact that he can create better then Alston, better playmaker then Alston and such. I still believe he's the primary ball-handler because of the system JVG put him in and how his main objective was to find people open shots, and passing it downlow to Yao.It is debatable but based on how many Rockets games I have watched(I probably only missed 4 games) I have always seen TMac dribble the ball the majority of the time. The only time I see Rafer dribbling the ball most of the time is when TMac is on the bench or out with an injury. But I do agree with you, I wanted JVG to leave because I wanted a better system which would have McGrady getting easier shots...and that's why I like Adelman's offense.
well, anyways some other people also agree with me.saying that T-Mac is not a point forwardthat is very arguable but I don't see it on the Media often or on the internet either thats another reason why I don't think t-mac is one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well, anyways some other people also agree with me.saying that T-Mac is not a point forwardthat is very arguable but I don't see it on the Media often or on the internet either thats another reason why I don't think t-mac is one.</div>That's not a very good reason to believe he isn't. Clyde the Glide even admitted that TMac was a point forward, In many games too.It's arguable, but based on what I've seen, stats, and such, I shall continue to believe he is a point forward. It may change next season however...
well some others have believe he isn't but I'm just saying.anyways dsounG you've provided more facts then Nitro so and this moment I think your a pretty good poster better then nitro of course.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well some others have believe he isn't but I'm just saying.anyways dsounG you've provided more facts then Nitro so and this moment I think your a pretty good poster better then nitro of course.</div>Thank you. But I don't think I'm better then Nitro. He would kill me.
I cant belive this thread got over 130 posts. I defended you not getting banned tmacyao but if EVERYONE on bbw disagrees with you, your obviously wrong, theres a point when stubborness turns to stupidity and your flirting with it.
meh, who cares.dsoung > nitro.at this moment I've proved more facts then nitro did before. even though I've discovered his facts are invalid.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 14 2007, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I cant belive this thread got over 130 posts. I defended you not getting banned tmacyao but if EVERYONE on bbw disagrees with you, your obviously wrong, theres a point when stubborness turns to stupidity and your flirting with it.</div>but the one providing the facts?Facts > opinions.anybody can agree on that.
Sorry to burst your bubble dude, but most of the 'facts' you posted were invalid and were not proven.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobetmacyao01 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>meh, who cares.dsoung > nitro.at this moment I've proved more facts then nitro did before. even though I've discovered his facts are invalid.but the one providing the facts?Facts > opinions.anybody can agree on that.</div>Except your not providing any facts. you just wont accept tmac is a point-forward in his current offense.
