EDIT: I just made another long reply to ballerman and Lakersfan, but ya'll know my stance, and if you read through the forums you will find various past replies to what both of you said.I'm done defending Wade. He doesn't need it, and everyone else is entitled to what they want to believe. If they think the calls he gets makes him way more of a player than he is, then whatever. As ridiculous as I think that is, and as ridiculous and overblown as I think his treatment from the refs is, ya'll know my stance and I'm tired of defending it.
^I see your tired of defending it and frankly I'm tired of reading the same stuff. I think you've been goated into a couple threads already regarding Wade. Wade/Refs is definately an overblown discussion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Feb 28 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^I see your tired of defending it and frankly I'm tired of reading the same stuff. I think you've been goated into a couple threads already regarding Wade. Wade/Refs is definately an overblown discussion.</div>Thats what I'm trying to say here, it's a new topic everday and how the game is rigged and Wade gets every call. This leaves me to wonder if anyone besides Nitro and a few others have ever watched the NBA pre-last season, mainly the finals really. Stars have always gotten special treatment from the refs, from Jordan to Bird to Magic. Here's a little article discussing just that:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I do know something about professional basketball. One of the accepted truths among NBA types is that the league's explosive growth from the 1980's onward has been based on emphasizing the superstars. Magic, Bird, Jordan, Shaq, and their heirs are able to put fannies in the seats and increase TV ratings and merchandise sales. The corollary to this is that the league openly allows and even encourages unequal enforcement of the rules. When Larry Bird was fouled, he could get a three-point play by a "continuation" of his move that defied reason. Magic Johnson could take three or four steps so long as he was making a spectacular pass. Michael Jordan could draw a foul in a key situation simply by being near someone. And Shaq is allowed to commit offensive fouls with impunity apparently because he is so big that it is unreasonable to notice that he flattens men who have established their defensive positions.What is extraordinary about the NBA is that these player-specific violations of blind justice are not only acknowledged but even celebrated. Hubie Brown, a former coach and broadcaster, would laugh and say things on official NBA broadcasts like "He hasn't been in the league long enough to get that call against Kobe," and "The refs aren't gonna make that call in Chicago." Such comments never, to my knowledge, evoked denials or discipline from the league. (The league does crack down on some things, though, such as unacceptable clothing choices and fighting with fans.) Contrast this with the NFL and MLB. Even though there is a lot of complaining in football about the rule called "roughing the passer," I have never heard anyone claim that certain quarterbacks get special treatment, only that all quarterbacks are either too exposed or too coddled. In baseball, you'll occasionally hear muttering that certain pitchers and batters receive the benefit of the doubt on balls and strikes; but this is denied by the leaders of the sport and is officially prohibited.</div>Source: http://michaeldorf.org/2007/02/sports-and-rule-of-law.html
None of us are doubting that stars get special treatment, some of us just feel that Wade gets more than others. Like the game where the Lakers played the Heat. Kobe got fouled several times where nothing was called, and Wade was getting touch fouls called left and right. I dont mind refs rewarding stars more than other players, and for rewarding players for going to the basket, but they need to be consistent, and I dont think they have been with Wade. He gets away with too much...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Mar 1 2007, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>None of us are doubting that stars get special treatment, some of us just feel that Wade gets more than others. Like the game where the Lakers played the Heat. Kobe got fouled several times where nothing was called, and Wade was getting touch fouls called left and right. I dont mind refs rewarding stars more than other players, and for rewarding players for going to the basket, but they need to be consistent, and I dont think they have been with Wade. He gets away with too much...</div>Among todays stars, I can agree with what your saying that Wade gets more then others. Point I was trying to make was that people are posting a million topics and this special treatment crap, as if it had never happened before.Although I will tell you, if you ever get a chance to watch a Jordan game in the playoffs please do so, you will see some totally BS calls.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Mar 1 2007, 03:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No one out there gets more preferential treatment than Wade. Thank you very much Stern.</div> David Stern has nothing to do with rigging the game and telling officials to give certain players preferential treatment. Like I've said a thousand times, it's preposterous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>None of us are doubting that stars get special treatment, some of us just feel that Wade gets more than others. Like the game where the Lakers played the Heat. Kobe got fouled several times where nothing was called, and Wade was getting touch fouls called left and right. I dont mind refs rewarding stars more than other players, and for rewarding players for going to the basket, but they need to be consistent, and I dont think they have been with Wade. He gets away with too much...</div>Does it need to be said continually? We get it, we get whose stance is where and that should be it.
