The Pro Nurk thread

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  1. riverman

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    Nurk is going to want a bigger slice of the salary cap pie than we'll be able to offer him so moving him is a wise cap move..he can go elsewhere offseason if we don't and can't pay him what he thinks he should get...I'm not sure Roco or Nurk as expirings are going to survive the trade deadline unless Chauncey is really attached to them. Dame could offer a pay cut to keep him like Duncan did for Ginobli but I don't see that happening either..a lot depends on how this team performs leading into the break.
     
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    if were gonna use that logic, dame was getting eaten alive by the likes of holiday, rondo & davis and hes in trouble when he gets double-teamed

    theres only a handful of players who cant be stopped, thats why theryre best players in the league (dame is not one of them)

    rest of the players have bad matchup(s), thats pretty normal
     
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    What are you "positively" willing to pay him?
     
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    I think part of Nurk's issue is he is asked to be almost the entirety of the defense and then when he gets beat, feels like he gets the blame when almost no one else is playing any decent defense. Put someone else around him that actually plays 'D' and get Powell back to his correct spot and as up and down as he can be, I imagine he wouldn't feel such a burden. So many nights, he has to cover to two poor defensive guards, a severely undersized SF, and then often gets very few shots.

    More balance might help out his situation significantly. Still will have some warts, but most players do.
     
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    What kind of value do you think he has around the league? Top 7 center? top 10?
     
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    If CJ gets moved I'd keep Nurk and pay him
     
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    How much?
     
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    Norm money
     
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    If CJ gets moved there will be salary coming back, so the only way to have this money is if you have expiring coming back.

    Again, how much are you willing to pay him? Portland would have been great if it was paying.cj.what it is paying Norm. If you replace overpaying CJ with overpaying Nurk, what have you done?

    Norm money is fair for Nurk, now, does he accept it?
     
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    Jokic, Embiid, Townes, Davis, Rudy & Bam (thats 6) are all decidedly better statistically this year and in real life. Several others are at least on the same level statistically and I'd take Ayton over him 8 days a week in actual play as he's much better switching on D.

    Being a homer is sort of cute though.

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    Expecting a guy that has shown you he is very inconsistent year after year to all of sudden become consistent is just as dumb as rolling with two 6’3 guards year after year expecting it to work this time. Next.
     
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    We shouldn’t even make him an offer, unload him at the deadline for a late 1 hopefully.
     
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    I'd be surprised if he gets that much from any of the NBA teams.
     
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    my opinion is that norm money (18 per year, that would be 4/72) would be the lowest offer he would accept, but he & klutch will surely go after 20-25 per year and probably would sign for anything in between

    in last 10 games, hes averaging 17/9/3 on 11 shot attempts and 59% field goal percentage and if you give him couple more shots, youre looking at 18/10/3 type of center (hed be 20/10 center easily, if he could finish better at the rim)

    of course, if theres no market for him, he might accept 4/60 even less or bet on himself and sign a 1 year contract in order to get a better contract next summer
     
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    I think Nurk will opt for security given he's had a leg fall off once and we fixed it for him...he's not an iron man and he got paid on our cap to heal ...Dame is his friend and hero..if Dame has his ear he'll take Norm money and if he's smart he'll take a long deal.
     
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    Lakers would pay into luxury tax to have him...they have a billion dollar tv deal for luxury tax dips. Pelicans and Hornets and Celtics would take Nurk in a hot minute
     
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    How would the Lakers give him $20m a year? Assuming they would have to trade for him this season to obtain their bird rights. Hard for me to come up with a trade both teams would agree on.

    If there were no such thing as a salary cap, I think $20m would be more plausable for Nurk. Either Portland gives him $20m, a team with cap space uses a big chunk or all of theirs on him, or a team trades for him now to obtain his bird-rights. Finding any of those scenarios seem difficult to me.
     
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    20m/year would make him the 6th or 7th highest paid center in the league, that's an overpay
     
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    I'm talking if he walked in free agency or it was a deal clutch worked out for him....Lakers don't have trade pieces but they have buttloads of money and don't give a shit about the luxury tax from what I've seen. Somebody said nobody would pay Nurk Norm money and I said...Lakers would and they would.
     
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    I don't think Nurk gets much more than 10 million a year.

    And tbh. I don't know I would pay him considerably more than that.

    If Quick is right, move his ass for something sooner rather than later.
     
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