The Pro Nurk thread

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  1. UKRAINEFAN

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    When you are the biggest guy on the court; shouldn't you be able to pass out of a double team?
     
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    if it was that easy, they would never double team center

    anyway, it was one game, it doesnt mean he wont be able to pass the ball in the next game
     
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    Nurk's assist ratio is #19 in the league among centers, his turnover ratio is unfortunately #11 among centers in the league. Under no measure he can be thought of as a passing savant.

    NBA.com also has a passing ratio stat, there he is #15 in the league among centers, in the assists recieved stat he is #20 among centers in the league. In assists points created, #18 among centers in the league.

    Good role player, anything over it is over valuing him.
     
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    So essentially he’s a good back up center and could be a starter when the real starter is injured.
     
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    If all you consider is offense. Sheeesh.
     
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    Is he better than Drummond? Seriously is Nurk more valuable than Andre Drummond?
    Exactly how much is he really worth and will he ever really be happy and just do his job?
     
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    No, his defense is very good as is his rebounding. He is a starting caliber center. He is just not a star center.
     
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    This is weird making a serious reply to your post. Feels like I should be insulting you somehow but here goes:

    If Nurk was a better finisher, didn't panic and turn it over on double-teams, skipped the high-risk passes, and never shot another 3 he would be a "star". It's maturity. He doesn't know who he is and needs to figure that out or he will always be the guy bitching about his role because he thinks he can do things he can't.
     
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    Oops I saw the dog avatar and thought it was that SPD guy. I don't know you well enough to insult you yet but give me some time......
     
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    Was aiming for barfo, but spd would do. At least I am not...
     
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    I guess we’ll see this summer.
     
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    So much this. It doesn't make sense to me to get say a Myles Turner and have to give up Ant or Nas or picks too just to marginally improve the position. Turner is probably more inconsistent than Nurk too, it's Batum level maddening with him. If someone like Embiid or Jokic somehow became available sure go ahead, but those aren't happening.
     
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    Yes, but you also have to account for no Dame, CJ, or Ant to kick out to for making teams pay for the double team. Dennis can't shoot so it makes the right spacing hard to pull off.
     
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    Yes, Nurk is better than Drummond and frankly it's not even close.
     
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    Again I guess we’ll see about that?
     
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    Whether Nurk is going to get moved or kept to me is going to be between Chauncey and Dame....if Dame wants Nurk, Dame gets Nurk....I think Roco and Nurk together don't have the chemistry that Chief and Nurk had together....upgrade Roco if you keep Nurk and I have no problem extending Nurk unless he prices himself out of our market.
     
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    Drummond makes the minimum. Another reason paying Nurk anything over the MLE is a little much. Nurk is not a game changer. The difference between them isn't 5 times the difference in salary.
     
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    You see this was my point in asking is Nurk better than Drummond. The idea that Nurk isn't much better than Drummond is valid. He's playing as a backup center and posting comparable numbers but when he was starting at age 27 he was putting 17.5 and 13.5 for Cleveland. The only time Nurk came close to those was 2019-20 when he played 8 games.

    The Idea Nurk is better and it isn't even close is laughable Homerism at best. Nurks numbers are falling faster than Drummond and they have never been as good. Granted Drummond doesn't shoot free throws well at all.

    Totally agree the max Nurk should ever get is a MLE.

    Not to mention he doesn't ever seem to bring a great attitude?
     
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    I agree that Nurk really misses Lillard.
     
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    Nurkic's defense is much better than Drummond's, which is why Nurkic is overall a better player. I think NBA front offices will absolutely value Nurkic above Drummond, when it comes to salary. But I do think it's valid to note that Nurkic isn't like 10 times better than Drummond. I'll be curious to see if Nurkic commands much more than the full MLE, which is about $10M per year.
     

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