Then trade him now for assets if the feeling is he will only resign as an overpay. He deserves what his market is set at.
Frankly, I would rather overpay for a good wing than Nurk. A lot more important for the Blazers to be competitive.
Sure looks like the market corrected on that type of center, doesn't it? Nobody would give any of those players, even the 2016 versions, contracts in the $25-26M/year range these days.
that type od center still gets paid and i clearly named them and what contracts they were given perhaps market has corrected on that type of center, but certainly not the point to go from 5/127 & 4/100 to minimum contracts in 5 years, game has not changed, its exactly the same... drummond and whiteside are idiots, thats why theyre on minimum contracts, not because of their type or anything else... nurk wont get minimum contract, if theres no market for him
You named very different types of centers. Myles Turner is not a center "like" Nurkic. He's a stretch 5 who has more defensive versatility. Capella is fast, explosive lob threat who, again, has defensive versatility. He has switchability. Centers still get paid, just not (usually) slow-footed, post-up centers. Nobody said he would. It's just that many of us don't think he's worth $20M+/year. I think he's worth in the $10-15M range for Portland. Probably less to most teams that don't already employ him and have him as an existing part of their salary structure.
Maybe in a universe where Norm is mobile and Nurk isn't. In a universe where Norm has a jumper and Nurk doesn't. Norm finishes strong at the hoop and Nurk doesn't. Norm can defend multiple positions and Nurk can not. Norm has shown he can be a major contributor to a championship... no one else on this roster has. So yeah, it's this universe that Norm is better than Nurk. We would be much better off with a mobile/versatile modern C that knows he's a role player than with Nurk who only knows how to use his one true gift (his size and strength) on one end of the floor and is an inconsistent complete headcase who thinks he's an all star.
If Nurk isn't ready to take a pay cut from us on a long term deal (which there's no way his pride would allow) we need to trade him to a team that isn't running a defense predicated on switchability and being able to recover from blitzes to get back to protect the hoop. Trade him to a team that misguidedly thinks they can make him finish strong at the hole. I like Chauncey and if Nurk is playing in Chauncey's system he's only actually good for 24 minutes a game which doesn't even make him a starter it makes him a platooning role player. Definitely not worth what he's being paid now let alone a raise.
top 100 nba players in 2021/2022 by sports illustrated: nurk 65 (44 in 2020) norm 92 (wasnt ranked in 2020) top 100 nba players in 2021/2022 by espn: nurk 74 (53 in 2020) norm 100 (wasnt ranked in 2020) well, lets just say they think like i am and not like some of you are and if it wasnt for injuries, difference between them would be even bigger... and if nurk gets bigger role, difference will be bigger without a doubt
One of them is climbing the ranks and the other is dropping. Also the national media doesn't have to watch Nurk throw up weak ass garbage every night, terribly try and execute Magic Johnson level passes and listen to him talk about how he's an all star and underutilized. I hope GMs around the league value Nurk as somewhere around the 70th best player in the league and that they're willing to give us that kind of return in a trade for him.
Because GMs give money out based on one number. Norm means more if he's a 2. Trade cj and your entire argument is moot. It's really REALLY simple.
im done discussing bball with clueless people my (troll) takes are terrible, but your serious takes are even worse
I guess we'll see how the market values him. I'm sure if Nurk signs for ~10-12M per year, you'll say that the NBA as a whole is clueless and doesn't know basketball like you do. You shouldn't invest emotionally in players, they'll only break your heart (and make you argue crazy things).
Nurk is 4/50 in my book. Best he should get. That is if and only if he can stay healthy this season. If he has any type of injury that costs him substantial time I would give him no more than a minimum contract.
Tim played center at their last championship, but kawahi was the best player at that point. He player more PF in their early championships. He certainly was a great post player, but usually played next to a more traditional center
Jonas makes 15 mill per season. Jonas plays more minutes per game than Jusuf. Jusuf deserves less than 15 mill.
"how market values him", that would make sense if teams have a lot of money available, but they choose not to pay him a lot of money if teams dont have money available, that doesnt speak about his value, does it you cant offer what you dont have
Then he should bet on himself for a year teams would have money to sign him. Sign a 1 or 2 year deal.
The salary cap has been a reality for decades, Nurkic is not the only player who has to deal with it.
