I've been watching the standings for some of the east lottery teams for trades like this. The Magic would for sure finish in the 6-12 range or make the playoffs and be either 15 or 16. That's why I was thinking maybe it could be one of those "reverse" protection ones where it has to be in the top-10 or whatever.
The risk with that is they're a really young team, which, in general, you would expect to trend upwards. And we'er not trading them someone expiring. So there's that outside chance, with those protections, we don't get it this season, but then next season, they could end up being even better, and we run the risk of 14, 15 being 20, 21 next season or something. I'd want immediate return if I'm dealing CJ, with the hopes of turning around and potentially dealing that pick at the draft, along with Turner's expiring contract.
Just to be clear; they still want to trade Gordon for CJ, but want to give us a pick instead of another player?
Agreed, which is also concerning. It would definitely be a risk but we could also probably combine our pick and the Magic pick to move up in the draft if there is a specific player we are targeting. Super risky that way. We also could get lucky the other way though and move up to one of the top spots.
If we were able to shed CJ and Leonard for Vuc, Ross, Simmons, pick, we could look to trade Baldwin(or Swanigan) to a team for basically nothing to open the needed roster spot, while also getting us under the LT. We'd have a lineup of Lillard/Turner Ross/Curry Layman/Harkless Aminu/Collins Nurk/Vuc We take a big hit at SG, and get a big improvement at backup 5. I think you'd look to increase Nurk's usage to make up for the loss of CJ, essentially surrounding him and Dame with shooters. This offseason, Vuc expires, Ross expires, and Simmons only 1 million guaranteed. We'd be looking at a potential lottery pick, our own pick in the 20s, and about 22 million dollars in cap space. I don't want to go into the offseason with a "cap space" plan, but you can go into it with a taking a disgruntled star and offering immediate relief plan. Then you make a big attempt at trading for a Davis, Griffin, etc. I dunno, still don't love it, lol
Sacramento is going all out for the playoffs this year and are completely soured on Cauley-Stein as their center moving forward. I don't like the idea of Vucevic as a backup being unhappy. Is getting Vucevic and his bird rights enough for Sacramento to take on Turner? Orlando gets CJ and Meyers Sacramento gets Vucevic and ET Portland gets Ross (expiring), Simmons ($1 million non-guaranteed next year), Z-Bo (expiring), Koufos (expiring), and Orlando 2019 1st
What about combining a couple of rumors? Atlanta gets Mozgov and a 2021 1st via Orlando (they want a future pick not a 2019 one) Orlando gets CJ, Swanigan, and Stauskas Portland gets Ross, Prince, Lin, and a 2019 1st via Orlando Orlando is giving up two 1st round picks but one is for CJ and one is for dumping Mozgov
"Just to be clear; they still want to trade Gordon for CJ" ukrainefan that part sounds more like a statement of fact thus the reason I was asking the question. I didn't know if it came from a forum, a friend or some other source.
ok, and he got this from someone in the Orlando front office? So many rumors get floated around and majority end up not having any legs. I don't see why Portland would be interested in Vucevich and losing our second best scorer and one of the few that can create his own shot. We have a good center and lack scorers, especially ones that can break down a defense.
Are you not reading all the posts? @TBpup said that he heard from his sources that Orlando would prefer to give up a pick and lesser parts for a CJ trade. @UKRAINEFAN was asking for clarification if that meant whether Gordon would not be part of what Orlando was offering. It was also said that the Blazers aren't really interested in what they are offering.
i was just trying to get clarification as it's hard to keep up with threads that go on forever. So it's Gordon for McCollum then which is a garbage trade for us. and I don;t see any way Orlando doesn't put at least top 10 protection on their pick.
I took it as The Ringer trade that this thread is about CJ and either Meyers or Harkless plus a 1st round pick for Gordon and Ross is something that Orlando prefers to not deal Gordon and instead give lesser players but include a pick. The Blazers aren't interested.
