Politics The RNC convention that even fewer people watched

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  1. riverman

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    Donald Trump is the massive hole...and that's why the Lincoln project exists...it's conservatives who are saying, we've had enough lying trying to save their own party...if we are not obsessed with the truth about things like the cornona virus....what should we be obsessed with? Confederate statues? This is a damage control election and in my view...democracy is on the ballot vs authoritarionism...I've made my choice as have most americans by now....so let's vote already..as much as you may want a civil, intelligent campaign about issues...that's not possible with Trump. The surprise is how many haven't seen just how horrible his lack of dignity and leadership is.
     
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    He commented on the night's lowliners. There were far more pertinent/impactful speeches than those.
     
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    The DNC is nothing more than a marketing tool for the Democratic platform which is far from a hole:

    https://www.demconvention.com/wp-co...emocratic-Party-Platform-For-Distribution.pdf

    Unfortunately, Trump's rise to power made it all about the personality - and the DNC tries to fight fire with fire.
     
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    Both conventions are just marketing tools. Both from what I've seen completely obsessed with Trump bad, Trump good. Both mostly useless.
    I think there's a reason why a lot of posters and people don't watch them, it's not very useful information being parsed out.
    I was just commenting since Minstrel posted an article talking about the 'hole' in the RNC just being about Trump (for the most part). The DNC was kind of the same thing just a different angle on it.
     
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    You know what's hilarious is the party platform document mentions Trump... 120 times...
     
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    A pretty stark contrast from emerging-from-the-basement-Joe, who's going to be manipulated by the Pelosi/Schumer/Bernie/Squad handlers.
     
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    That's what happens when an incumbent president has been impeached by Congress....in fairness...Trump has baited with insults and made way more false claims about crimes he thinks Obama commited without proof.....when a compulsive liar has presidential power the opposition party better call the fucker out for it. You destroy democracy you will get called out and you should
     
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    I haven't watched either convention, so I can't comment directly on them, but I think there's a difference between the Republican party, at this moment, and the Democratic party. The Democratic party is taking aim at Trump, obviously--that's what every party does when running against an incumbent. But I think they're pretty clear on what they're for, too. Not just what they're officially for, but the debates over what they should be pushing for. Everyone in the party doesn't agree, but you can see priorities around police reform, health care, etc, even if there's argument on the best way to achieve that.

    Meanwhile, the Republican party has fallen into an abyss of cult of personality--I haven't seen much about what the party is for, what their policy agenda is, what they hope to accomplish. All they currently seem to be for is protecting Donald Trump and apologizing for his insane comments.
     
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    You mean explaining the Covid-19 bills and how they were hollowed out by the Trump administration or being a part of the international community instead of the Trump administration's America first and only or the Tax cuts and proposed payroll cuts of the Trump administration and how they impact social security and health care?

    Of course they are, this is not a scholarly document dealing with things in the abstract - it is about the state of the country today, where they want to go to and how it contrast with the current administration's policies and plans. It would be a travesty if it did not.
     
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    There's really not proof of that. The conventions are pretty easily summarized by this.
    DNC - Trump is bad. Threat to democracy. Capitalism is also kinda bad. All the civil unrest is because of Trumps presidency. Covid deaths are because Trump.
    RNC - Trump is good. Biden's a puppet for socialism, communism. Communism bad. All the riots are democrat ran cities/states, they're coming for you.
     
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    and the Lincoln project bores you? Trump's words.....some folks will get the sniffles and it'll fade by April...we need to get back to work and back to school! At that point we had less than 1000 deaths..yeah...Trump enabled irresponsible behavior, mask refusal, and did extend the death toll of the virus by not locking down the country and following the recommendations of our scientists
    None of this is acceptable
     
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    It spoke of exactly what I was saying though. It's a complete obsession with Trump from both parties. I understand why they're talking about Trump.
     
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    Yes, it's just about on the same level of insightful as the conventions are.
     
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    It most certainly does not. Even trivializing the document to word counts instead of context - it has 289 occurrences of the word health. Using this absurd method of determining what the platform is - apparently it is a HMO mission statement. Please...
     
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    Another great song!



    Look in my eyes, what do you see?
    The cult of personality
    I know your anger, I know your dreams
    I've been everything you want to be
    I'm the cult of personality
    Like Mussolini and Kennedy
    I'm the cult of personality
    The cult of personality
    The cult of personality
    Neon lights, a Nobel Prize
    Then a mirror speaks, the reflection lies
    You don't have to follow me
    Only you can set me free
    I sell the things you need to be
    I'm the smiling face on your T.V.
    I'm the cult of personality
    I exploit you still you love me
    I tell you one and one makes three
    I'm the cult of personality
    Like Joseph Stalin and Gandhi
    I'm the cult of personality
    The cult of personality
    The cult of personality
    Neon lights a Nobel Prize
    A leader speaks, that leader dies
    You don't have to follow me
    Only you can set you free
    You gave me fortune
    You gave me fame
    You gave me power in your own god's name
    I'm every person you need to be
    Oh, I'm the cult of personality
    I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of
    I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of, I'm the cult of personality
     
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    Obsession is a sensationalized view of the impact Trump has on our country....I know you like it and want it to be an equal flaw but the fact is, it's not an equal flaw.....it's important to every aspect of our lives to highlight dangerous behavior by people in positions of power...police, presidents..anyone who is hurting the country or world for their own political survival....not going to water it down..the GOP cannot lead as currently constructed...those that think it's ok are in denial
     
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    So how much of the DNC stuff did you watch? Literally everything I have seen of it was centered around how bad Trump is. I originally did not say anything about the democratic party or their platform as a whole. Sure they (both) have had moments of talking about other things, but it's been a side object when compared to talking about Trump. I spoke of the conventions since this is about DNC/RNC.
    conventions.
    You presented a document that talked a whole lot about Trump's failures, that's fine but that doesn't change what the conventions themselves have been. Sure it had other policy stuff in it, I didn't deny that.
     
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    The democratic party has a complete covid virus relief stimulus package completed for the last 3 months.....the GOP refused to approve it over things like the USPS and lack of wall money....one party is playing partisan roulette with the country and the other is trying to help people get through a pandemic without losing their lives and being made homeless...I don't think it's hard to fathom what's going on...yeah..sure, it could and should be a more intelligent race but the dems aren't debating an intelligent person
     
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    I couldn't watch either parties conventions. It's all self gratification and base pandering from both parties. Besides, both the RNC and DNC are corrupt, so you'll get nothing but lies from either of them anyway.

    On a side note: The republicans are literally the butt plugs of U.S. politics. You aren't getting anything past them unless they want it to. Ironically, The democrats won't bring America change, unless you can pull them to the left. Democrats do give the population bigger crumbs than republicans, but that is about it.
     
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