The scary/nervous part about how the Blazers improve

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  1. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Please note I said the word "any"
     
  2. TBpup

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    A 2 game winning streak would be a 'run' at this point the way this season has gone. If he can come close to what he did in Boston, you keep giving him minutes. Don't do what Stotts did to Layman after perhaps the greatest 1st quarter of play by a rooking in the history of the NBA. If someone can do that, give them opportunity to do it again. I haven't seen many other guys on the team capable of that type of explosion or hot streak.
     
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    Quote "he D'd up on Isaiah Thomas as well as any 'big' I've ever seen on the perimeter" (in regard to Noah Vonleh)

    Noah has amazing agility for a guy built like he is. Each time he's out on the perimeter, with his length, I get visions of a KD stopper.

    What's everyone's thoughts on trying Noah as a 'Power' small forward, somewhat in the vein of a Ruben Patterson only the PF/SF version and much, much bigger.

    Noah has the strength to overmatch the smaller players along with a massive wingspan to bother the offensive player - and from what I've seen he has the agility to cover the smaller players also.
    He has range out to three and could post up smaller players when the opportunity arises.

    It may or may not work out - but at this stage we need to shake things up a bit. It could also improve our anemic rebounding this season.

    Blazers then could try some interesting (and much bigger) line-ups:
    CJ, Turner, Vonleh, Plumlee, Davis
    Cj, Crabbe, Vonleh, Plumlee, Leonard
     
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    He has the physicality to do this 4-5 times a night. Do that, and ill suck your dick. Do it not, and everyone of you will miss the playoffs.
     
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    Nice: a 'Madonna' re-neg promise mixed with a little Yoda speak. . .


    But on topic, it was great to see some aggression from Meyers. Hopefully his testes don't reshrink.
     
  6. gatorpops

    gatorpops Allen Crabb hits winning shot on Nov24 vs Blazers

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    I should think that Meyers could become our third option on offense as he can very well be developed as a "pick n roll" player and be the Aldridge that rolls instad of always poping out.
    If they do not come out on him he will kill them with 3s. When we use him with Dame or CJ or even ET this combo could be exceptional.

    As for Noah he just needs minuets. I like to try Noah and Meyers and either of the others as a rebounding and defense front line.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm all for Noah playing more and I guess Meyers too (they're already paying him) but you have to trade for a pass first point guard to put in the second unit or I just don't think much development is going to happen.
     
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    I'll be happy if we make a run in any quarter of a game at this point
     
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    Layman is a promising project...he's skilled. Given some burn he could hoop. Not afraid to bang in the paint either
     
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    Except you keep putting Plums as a PF and that is a fail. Sorry He will not work there.
     
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    gatorpops Allen Crabb hits winning shot on Nov24 vs Blazers

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    I like Plums a lot but we really need to let him go in the summer.
    I would like to see us try Plums at PF to see if he can work with Meyers or Davis.
    We have a big in Meyers and "if" he can develope pick and roll and use him on D like we used
    rolo saging back to protect the rim we have him for a song.
    If we can get another PF or C in the draft to complement him we may have it covered.
    If we could get Okafor for offense who I think is better than any of the bigs we have now.
    I would insist Meyers take instruction from a big man coach for drop step moves etc. if he wants to stay.
    Of course you trade him if you can upgrade but not likely.
    He reminds me a little of Priz when he first came to us.
    Remember the coach kept telling him just dunk the ball. Priz became a very servicable center.
     
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    Can you please explain why you feel Plums would succeed at PF?
    I don't get this premise.
    He has no outside shot. None.

    In today's game a starting PF needs ot have at least a decent mid range game.
     
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    I thought ET was brought in to start at SF in the first place. But take out Dame or CJ with the bench players, we are really hurting. ET been ng a super sub for Boston, he upgrades the bench unit.

    I like the change, too. And playing Vonleh more. Vonleh might be relied upon for big minutes next season, and he's actually played like he's developing nicely.
     
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    This. He's also going to struggle on D at the perimeter.
     
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    Mid-range, low-post.....or almost any consistent ability to create a score for themselves. If all that is missing, defensive brilliance. None of those things apply to Mason as nice of a complimentary player as he is.
     
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    If the team isnt planning on bringing Plumlee back, they better trade him now. I doubt that's the case however. He's improving. His rim protection has taken a jump and would really benefit from another rebounder next to him. Also, I don't think people realize how important his playmaking is. He's the glue guy.

    And I'm all for more Vonleh. In theory, he's exactly what we would want next to Plumlee. Good rebounder, can defend the post, can block shots, and has the range to space the floor offensively. We've got a month to really give that combo a look. Give him 25 minutes every night and let's see what we got. We may end up solving our issues internally.
     
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    I doubt if he will but we need rebounding so since he is a a mobil big he might be paired with Meyers for short spurts.
    He could set up pick and roll from the forward position. Probably wont work so we let him go at end of season.
    We need to give Meyers as much time as we posibly can however. Someone has gotten him more aggresive lately and I think it will continue.
    We need to play one of Dame or CJ with Tuner nearly all game. Napier is ok but should be told that he is to distribute the ball and only shoot as needed.
     
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    I could see that if either Meyers or PLums had any sort of rebounding skills. and actually Plums isn't a bad rebounder, but neither of them have those instincts. I would give that a very slim chance of being successful And I am a Meyers Camp boy.
     
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    FYI

    Miles Plumlee signed a contract last summer that pays him $12.4M this season. Maybe this is the size contract we might expect for our Plumlee.

    I think he's comparable all around with Mason. Just our Plumlee gets starter's minutes.
     

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