Zombie The super Melo to Portland thread. Now w/ extra fiber!

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  1. OSUBlazerfan

    OSUBlazerfan Welcome!

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    I have a personal trainer that i'm pretty close with who today tells me, that he watched game 5 last night with a Blazer front office exec. He says he talked informally about Blazers plans or what they're looking to do in the draft. Source said that the Blazers are talking with the Knicks about a Leonard+15 swap for Carmelo (other players would be involved, but they weren't mentioned).

    A couple of big caveats:

    • The Blazers are eyeing a player or two in the mid-lottery, and if able to get them, the Knicks deal will not go thru
    • Its dependent on Carmelo allowing the trade

    Disclaimer: don't shoot the messenger

    EDIT:

    something like this would work

    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yddwywx4

    Leonard/Festus/Davis -> Melo/O'Quinn
     
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  2. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Crap! Short term highly questionable gain for long term pain. Throw in turner and Crabbe and knicks pick then I like it better.
     
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    No way Melo waives his no trade to come to PDX.

    I'd take on his deal just to rid myself of watching Leonard "play" basketball.

    Fit wise, I actually like Melo as a 4 next to Nurk in the frontcourt provided we get a versatile, lockdown defender at the 3.
     
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    The Professional Fan Big League Scrub

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    This. No chance in hell, I'd imagine.
     
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    If Neil trades a pick for Carmelo I will be pissed. He'd need to get fired for that shit.
     
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    I think it could be an absolutely genius move for this team. It buys us talent immediately unloads Leonard who won't contribute, gives us a player that will contribute for more than and pick in this draft and at worst helps our luxury cap after this season. #15 is maybe the wrong pick though #20 can con into play.
     
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    this would be an unbelievable move..............................
     
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    if you can do this deal with the 15th pick....you can most likely pacake 20 and 26 and maybe a player to move up from 20....and dump some cap. harkless comes to mind in this situation
     
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    I would love this deal

    Dame/CJ/Melo/Vonleh/Nurkic is a great team to face Warriors.
     
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    BonesJones Advocate for Rookie Rights Staff Member

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    A great team if you want to watch Steph, Klay, and KD combine for 150 points a game.
     
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Melo will make ~$26.24M, and Leonard makes~ $9.9M.

    Blazers would need to come up with ~$16.34M in outgoing salaries to match.

    Turner or Crabbe would make the salaries match. Some combination of players works, too. Harkless and Aminu works. Harkless and Davis is close, if not good enough.

    I would assume NO isn't going to somehow use Ezeli's non-guaranteed deal in this kind of trade - we need the cap relief to avoid the tax if this trade scenario happens.

    The Knicks have a lot of cap space available, though they have to deal with DRose and his massive cap hold. In theory, we could trade $36M (or whatever) for the $26M incoming Melo contract.

    Since we'd be sending the Knicks a 4th C, maybe we could get them to send us O'Quinn.

    I'm with Schilly - that this could be a good deal. It gets a little tough if we're going to be sending out a ~30MPG rotation player, or two, on top of Leonard. I would wait and see before making any judgment other than Melo can still play. I wouldn't judge him by how the Knicks fared with him - I went to a Knicks game at the Garden 2 years ago (Melo didn't play) and that team started and played several actual D-Leaguers.

    On the other hand, I don't know that Melo at SF alongside Dame, CJ, and Nurk, is going to make us a team that can compete with the Warriors any better than the Cavs did. For this reason, I'd much rather see us go after a guy who's under the radar but with some upside. Someone like Otto Porter.
     
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    Rastapopoulos The Violent Left

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    Hell, I'd watch that team. Bring it on. Melo is a good soldier on Team USA and knows this is his last shot.

    Not going to happen, though.
     
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    Rastapopoulos The Violent Left

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    Melo has to be smallball PF. Play Aminu for at least some semblance of D.
     
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    Schilly Well-Known Member

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    Also keep in mind this is presented as Plan B
     
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    Rastapopoulos The Violent Left

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    The B is for Bullshit.
     
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    This is sort of a "Kim Hughes gets fired" thread
     
  18. Fonzthecpt1

    Fonzthecpt1 I'm Listening

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    Only thing I don't like is that it means we wouldn't be getting Ferguson.

    Melo would be a great fit here, he could revitalize his career as a Blazer.
     
  19. BonesJones

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    I can't believe the consensus is Melo would be a good fit here lol. Forgot about defense have we?

    Melo isn't gonna stop is from getting swept by GSW.

    Melo would leave after a year, and the consensus would be that we should've never traded a pick in a great draft for him.
     
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    Fonzthecpt1 I'm Listening

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    Even if we gave up 120 points we would score 125. Sounds like today's league to me...

    Of course there would be some nights where we hold teams to <100.

    Don't judge Melo based off his last few seasons in NY. The Knicks are a mess.
     
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