The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

Woj is now on Dan Le Batard show.
- Knicks would like to talk to Carmelo Anthony this week.
- His preference is clearly Houston now.
- Going to be hard to the Knicks to resell New York to Carmelo.
- Cleveland is agressive but lacks the assets to make a deal. Similar to Houston they don't have young players or picks to make a deal.
- Cleveland's offer for Paul George included Kevin Love to Denver.

Not a single mention of Portland during this short time with Woj.

 

Was just about to post the same. Rather casual, calm discussion about Melo like there's no hurry for a deal at all. Woj did say Paul George would consider staying in OKC if things go okay this year.

 

Yeah, I don't see why there would be any urgency. Anthony's going to spend his off-season in New York regardless, I'm sure.

I don't think it's impossible that New York just holds onto Anthony if he insists that Houston is the only place he'll be traded. He'll still be a ticket draw and he expires in two years (or one, if he opts out). Better than taking on Rockets garbage.

 

There is a lot of relationship that could be broken by holding on a player that doesn't want to be here. Yes there is no urgency at all for the Knicks but if they want to move forward, the distraction provided by Melo may be too negative to keep him around.

 

Maybe NY talking to Carmelo is to get him to waive NTC to Portland

 

Seems like the best move for everyone is just to let him opt out next year and go where he wants. NY saves cap space and Houston or Cleveland can just work to sign him.

 

Knicks would be dumb to not try and get something in return for Melo...they've blown it up already and need young talent moving forward

 

Holding onto a disgruntled veteran when you're rebuilding isn't very smart, especially when you have an opportunity to add a young player or two and not lose him for nothing.

 

which is why the Knicks would like to do the Portland trade, but Melo is saying no.
Melo is saying Rocket deal, but the Knicks are saying no - you don't rebuild with Ryan Anderson and his contract.

 

Yeah and there was a report that mentioned the meeting the knicks want to have with Melo will be centered on him expanding his list of teams he'd accept a trade to. I wouldn't be surprised if the knicks have an acceptable package from Portland that they'd like to execute.

 

There is a Press Conference at 2pm in New York. I haven't seen the topic but it probably is the new GM presentation. Could be interesting.

 

It's actually pretty smart what the Knicks are doing, they're making him look like the bad guy to their fans because he'd be making them take a shit deal to go to Houston when they could get a better deal from us plus a lot of other teams probably.

 

Also smart what Oshey's doing. He has stars who want vet help. So, he leaked our offer for PG, so fans and stars would "know" he tried hard to get it done. Now, he's doing the same with Carmelo....

 

The Rockets have nothing to offer. I hope we can keep them from getting him so they have to wait a year to find out that the experiment will fail, and by then they'll have to use cap space to sign him to a big contract.

 

They don't have that opportunity with Houston. My comments regarded a situation where Anthony didn't expand the number of teams he'd go to. If it's Rockets or nothing, I could definitely see New York choosing nothing--I think that would be rational.

 

So, to summarize the various positions:

1. New York is looking to rebuild and would like to move Carmelo's contract for young players with upside and draft picks.
2. Carmelo is willing to waive his no-trade clause to go to Houston or Cleveland.
3. Houston's only got Ryan Anderson's albatross of a contract to offer in trade, which doesn't fit what NY wants at all.
4. Cleveland only has Love to offer in trade, but if they were willing to trade Love this deal would have happened a long time ago.
5. Portland would like to upgrade its roster with a talented veteran, but has zero interest in helping Houston improve by taking Anderson.
6. New York has a new GM, who they're going to introduce today at a press conference, who is going to get down on his knees and beg Carmelo to expand his list of possible trade destinations.
7. NBA forums like this one are going ape shit with trade scenarios that could potentially bag Carmelo.

Does that pretty much cover 3,000 plus posts?

So, isn't that a whole lot of hoopla for a guy who is well past his prime and has never lead a team anywhere in the playoffs?

 

Yes, except that most teams that are willing to offer a young player also insist on tying it to a bloated contract. The young player may not be worth taking on the contract.

 

he said Houston or Cleveland....as training camp approaches, he could change his mind.

 

Pretty sure he got to the WCF with the Nuggets.

2008-2009 and lost to the Lakers.

 

He dominated the Olympics last year....I'd say he's pretty far from past his prime....he needs a team like the Blazers to get back on track...the Knicks were a shitstorm with 5 coaches and 4 GMs since he's been there....that's not all on him