The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

I really don't mind this trade at all.

 

If we get Ryan Anderson, Neil kind of went overboard on addressing the PF situation with Collins, Swanigan and Anderson. Which would lead one to believe Meyers and possibly Vonleh are on the way out.

From the NYK perspective, Harkless makes sense. He's still young, on a very reasonable contract and from NY. But, I'd much rather unload Crabbe's contract on them. Mo doesn't excel at anything, but is competent at most things. Crabbe excels at one thing and sucks at everything else - and he's older than Mo and makes twice as much.

Which brings me back to Anderson. When healthy, he's better than Crabbe, but he's also 4 years older, has never been the picture of health. His worst year is better than Crabbe's best year - that's the problem. This past season in HOU was the worst of his career (looking at advanced stats). That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Most guys who play for Mike D'Antoni see about a 30% uptick in their offensive production. Anderson was kind of the opposite. Why? Was he already declining at 28? That's hard to believe since his game is based on shooting touch, not athleticism. Was it just a case of too many other shooters and only one ball in HOU? Harden, Gordon and Lou Williams all thrived under D'Antoni. Anderson, not so much.

To me, Crabbe's and Anderson's contracts are a wash. Crabbe is younger and healthier, in general, but Anderson is better, would start and play a bigger role. If only we were getting NOP Anderson, or especially ORL Anderson, it would be a no-brainer, but it seems those versions are long gone. At this point, Anderson is just as 1-dimensional as Crabbe, and I have been clamoring since last November that we need 2-way players at the forward positions. I think we have one in Collins, but if we make a trade that lands us Anderson, it makes me wonder how far out Neil and Terry think Collins is. Yep, only 19, young bigs take more time to adjust etc., but I want to see Collins get the minutes needed to accelerate his development and Anderson might delay that.

Unless we get something else of note out of this, besides Ryan Anderson, I think we're basically just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

BNM

 

That one I'd do, as we are swapping two bad contract for one and not hurting our competitiveness in the process.

BNM

 

I don't think that is fool proof evidence. Someone could easily have a tall friend, and work at an airport. Would be easy to fabricate, and I wouldn't put it past some people in society to do so for a bit of "fame".

 

If I was an NBA GM and wanted to send out some smoke screens to make other GMs panic and maybe up their offers, I'd hire celebrity look alikes and send them to other NBA cities.

BNM

 

Yep--I think Vonleh will get the Plumlee treatment this year. Unless we really break out to start this season and can justify giving Vonleh a huge contract then NO will have to trade Vonleh for something.

 

Sorry, I'm late to the thread. Haven't check out any other page but the first.

I saw a trade rumor on the first page of this thread for Harkless. I will be ROYALLY pissed if this happens. I really like this guy, and he fit in perfectly here.

Don't trade Harkless! The pick-and-roll with him and Nurk is a thing of beauty.

Everyone else though can get the fuck out. Especially Meyers.

 

Is this a criminal trial or a civil suit? I'd say it does not meet the burden of proof for a criminal trial (beyond a reasonable doubt, unanimous jury verdict), but does meet the burden of proof in a civil case (preponderance of the evidence, simple majority from the jury).

Not sure anyone is getting "famous" posting fake photos of NBA players and their luggage, but I suppose it could be a hoax just for the fuck of it.

BNM

 

They don't run the pick and roll. Hark just slashes to the bucket and finishes better than anyone on the team. But yes. DON'T trade him.

 

I hope we end up with Harkless! He's the only player I like in that list.

 

@TBpup Are you hearing anything?

 

Trade Crabbe, Turner and Harkless? No problem because Layman.
(where is the damn green font button...)

 

Exactly. Running the pick and roll would require Mo to dribble. Mo is MUCH better moving without the ball than trying to move with it. And, I'm OK with that. Kersey was the same way. One guy like that on the court at a time is fine, especially when you have someone like Nurk (or even Plumlee - he was great at hitting Mo in the LAC series) who can make that pass from the high post.

BNM

 

@BonesJones I checked with a contact close to the Nets. That's as close as I have to the Knicks. He didn't seem to think Portland would get involved taking on Anderson's deal unless there was a pick or some significant cap relief attached. Houston has nothing of value and neither does NY to speak of.

 

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! With Harkless being the only named player worth a damn, and the fact that there's a public rumor, there's no chance we're actually interested in this. NYK leaked this "rumor" to try to create value out of Melo. This is a phishing expedition to try to get other 3rd parties involved.
Or at least it BETTER be!

 

Exactly, the Knicks may have leaked that they want Mo, but that doesn't mean he's been offered.

BNM

 

Slashing, my mistake, thank you. I love the way he does it.

 

When looked at in this light, all they've really done is set Harkless' trade value at "superstar".

 

Damn! If only they had done that before IND traded Paul George to OKC. As much as Kevin Pritchard hates Paul Allen, even he would have had a hard time turning down a young "superstar" in return for his disgruntled one.

BNM