The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

Gotta come up with, I would think, at minimum 20 minutes per game for him.

 

At halftime last night Dame and CJ had a combined 8 points and we were up 17.

 

One game? Cool.

 

And that lead disappeared when Stevens started aggressively trapping Dame and sending weakside help to Nurk. Aminu hit his wide open shots when it mattered yesterday. Getting another guy who can is not exactly a bad thing. And I've seen Chief brick wide open looks too many times in the playoffs to really give him the benefit of the doubt. What are we losing here? Taking a few mins away from Meyers and Jake? The potential reward is far greater than the risk.

 

Also, Dame had 12 dimes last night. That doesn't happen very often.

 

The season is still young but wouldn't you agree that both Dame and CJ have a lot less pressure on them to score so far this year?

 

Absolutely. The addition of shooters has made a huge difference. Layman, Sauce, and Curry have really made a huge impact on this team, but my opinion is that having guys that can put the team on their back is a good thing. It enables your shooters. They just have to be willing passers. I don't know if Melo is a willing passer, but I hope he is.

Dame has shown that he will feed the hot hand, and he'll turn on the Dame Time juice when the time comes. He is the best leader we have ever had, in my opinion.

 

I am not a huge Aminu fan but you are completely wrong about him in the playoffs. In 4 seasons making the playoffs his career 3P% is 43%. He's never shot worse than 40% in a playoff series.

I think the potential of developing Layman and eventually Baldwin is greater than the potential of Melo. Now if a trade was made first to open up a roster spot then I'd be fine bringing Melo in. You admit that Melo was being used wrong but then think he'd help when Dame gets trapped? What they need to do is stop getting Dame trapped. If that is your reasoning we'd be using Melo just like OKC and Houston did.

 

Obviously I agree with you about Dame being a great leader. However, Chris Paul is Melo's best friend so even though he's a complete d-bag and a crappy teammate it's puzzling to me that they aren't able to co-exist. It kind of worries me that Melo might be a major buzz kill behind the scenes with whining or something like that. I'm not really sure why else he'd be released by the Rockets.

 

Melo is a completely terrible idea. The fact that Houston is waiving him already speaks volumes to his lack of value. He's a one dimensional, high usage player who struggles to fit into an offense and sucks just as much life out of a defense with his nonexistent effort. The only sort of team his style can be compatible with is a tanking team. There's a reason why two playoff teams in a row have been overjoyed to drop him.

Personally I think he should just go to China and chuck with Starbury and the Jimmer.

 

Yeah, you're probably right but then I go back to why did they even sign him knowing that he had already played for D'Antoni? It's not like they went into the situation not knowing if it would work or not.

 

Also, Melo is a guy who posted a TS% of .452 last year in the playoffs as a 3rd option. Where does this idea that he can help offensively come from? He's embarrassingly washed up and I'd way rather see those shots go to Collins/Curry/Turner/Stauskas/Layman.

 

The minutes are there. There are about 20 minutes just between Leonard and Biggie. Can stagger the remaining 5 or whatever.

 

True, but he's also obsessed with analytics. He seems to want people to think he's a genius so knowing Melo's deterioration analytically it surprises me that being a big name would win out over his philosophies.

 

Do you guys think the Vulcans would even sign off on signing him?

 

Carmelo was a year removed from being an effective player in New York. I mean his PER was almost 18. Objectively, that’s above average for a starter. In a vacuum I can understand taking him on. What I don’t think he thought of enough is how Melo would fit in Houston’s offense. Melo has always been more of a halfcourt player and probably clashed with dantoni for that reason. Im guessing Morey figured playing with his buddies would fix those issues? I don’t know, but I do know he’d be a better fit in Portland’s system.

 

I don't know about that. Howard has some monster analytic numbers. It's the same reason Capela is on the team. In fact Dwight Howard has some of the best analytics of All-Time.

Career TRB% of 20.9% -4th best going back to 1970 when the stats are recorded

Career BLK% of 4.37% - 27th going back to 1973

Career eFG% of 58.3% - 5th All-Time!

Career TS% of 59.9% - 21st All-Time!

Career DBPM of 2.77 - 26th going back to 1973

Career VORP of 39.9 - 54th going back to 1973

Career PER of 21.6 - 40th going back to 1951

Career DRTG of 99.5 - 26th going back to 1973

Career Win Shares/48 of 0.172 - 54th of All-Time!

I got sick of looking it up but you get the point.